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Modify player list window to NOT show hostile/friendly

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 10:33 pm
by Neven666
Can you modify the player list window so it doesn't show other players on the same map. Mostly for PvP reasons. As players use the Player List to warn of other chars coming into the area, when in fact they shouldn't know. This way the Track skill and Stealthing are actually useful in PvP.

Just an idea. :)

PS. I used to play and DM NS3 and beta tested NS4. Been gone a while, so looking forward to NS5.

Re: Modify player list window to NOT show hostile/friendly

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 6:46 am
by ashsagoon
As far as I can tell, it only shows players who you can see. So if a player is in the next room and you can't see them, it won't tell you hostile or neutral or whatever in the box. Also if you have no see invis and they are invis right near you, it won't show their status in the box. So you have to actually be able to see them to know they are there. And if you can see them then the player status window doesn't matter.

I might be wrong but that's the way it seems to me.

Re: Modify player list window to NOT show hostile/friendly

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:53 am
by Bargeld
I know that sneaking toons show up in the player list when close by, hidden or not.

Re: Modify player list window to NOT show hostile/friendly

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:09 pm
by Lorkar
Bargeld is right, at least in my experience he is. Not only will they show but the screen will hiccup (so to speak) alerting you that something changed, kinda like the way it does when creatures spawn. Ooooops, another exploit...I will try not pay attention the next time it happens. :wink:

Re: Modify player list window to NOT show hostile/friendly

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:20 pm
by Apokriphos
deja vu from the matrix? :P

Re: Modify player list window to NOT show hostile/friendly

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:58 am
by Lorkar
Actually it is Vuja De...the feeling that I have never been there or done that before.

Re: Modify player list window to NOT show hostile/friendly

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:03 am
by Neven666
Perhaps something has changed in a recent update? But as of a few weeks ago, i am able to see all 'toons' in an area unless they are successfully stealthed. Even then they do randomly sometimes show up (as someone said, when in visual range). They show up when invisible or even in a room or area you cannot see on map, no matter how far away they are on the map (even outside visual range).

Re: Modify player list window to NOT show hostile/friendly

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:36 am
by Lokey
It's an engine function called locally and passed to the server.

We can make it default to not do this, but that's an easy change even if we get hak uber allez in a patch. The only way to stop it is to either packet sniff and kill the call from the client or someone identifying the engine register of the function and killing it there on the server. That may be possible to do without blowing the whole game up, anything else isn't worth doing.