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Dragon Builds.
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:09 pm
by ShadowDragon_Rider_ns3
Hi I want to make a charator with the dragon form. I've done the shifter version many times and now Iwant to try the druid way. I know that I only need 14 lvls of druid to get it done. What I would like tho is a few ideas for the rest of the build. I've heird use Monk, use Ranger, use both Monk and Ranger, Use DD.
Any suggestions would help me make up my game plan thanks.
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:17 pm
by pincushion63_ns3
I myself am planning to do a dragon again soon. I don't know if it's what your looking for but right now I'm leaning towards a Ranger/Duid/WeaponMaster. I haven't put it to papper yet to see if it will work but it's one idea for you.
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:38 pm
by Charon_ns3
The last time I tested (admittedly, it's been a few months) Weapon Foci didn't not transfer when shifted (Epic Prowess did, however) so I'm not sure where the benefit of taking Weapon Master is, unless you plan to be unshifted for a significant amount of time. Just thought I'd save you the trouble...
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:38 pm
by Zarach'_ns3
well if you want huge ab go any fighter class for first 20 lvls to max bab. bard is also a very good choice, as the song makes up for the lower bab (among other things hehe). definitely throw in some monk tho..its a must.
have fun experimenting
oh yeah...and wm is absolutely useless for dragon builds btw
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:45 pm
by DM ex Machina_ns3
wm only translates to armed forms. so it is possible to make a scythe-master shifter/wm risen lord.
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:17 pm
by ShadowDragon_Rider_ns3

I get the feeling that WM is not the way to go thanks. So what would be the best way do do a build purely for the dragon form builted as a druid.
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:02 am
by Zarach'_ns3
yeah its possible to use wm with armed forms but..why?

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:28 pm
by pincushion63_ns3
ok I agree the WM blows. I put it to paper and it sucked. ltho I think we are missing the point here. this guy asked for ideas for a druid based dragon and all most people seam to be doing is ripping mine instead of giving him more.
After I scrapted the WM I toyed with a 16 monk/10 DD/14 druid it seams ok on papper gona try it in a char builder what do you guys think of that one and or give the other guy something else to work with
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:49 pm
by Dr_Fangorn_ns3
Dragons suck.

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:58 pm
by DM ex Machina_ns3
yeah its possible to use wm with armed forms but..why?
there isn't any point now, since the risen lord nerf. unless you've got a mage behind you spamming NEBs.
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:39 pm
by cryodog2_ns3
there isn't any point now, since the risen lord nerf. unless you've got a mage behind you spamming NEBs.
not true, while nerfed they can still be useful for many things. you just have to know where is best to use that form.
aside from that, a CoT/druid/monk or pally/druid/monk would work as well.
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:31 pm
by DM ex Machina_ns3
not true, while nerfed they can still be useful for many things.
Like mule-ing. My wm risen lord is now my gems and eyeballs mule.
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:49 pm
by Charon_ns3
I wasn't trying to rip your build Pin, just save you some trouble...but you raise an excellent point...here are a couple of my favorite dragons:
25 Bard / 14 Druid / 1 Monk is a solo animal; 20 Ranger / 17 Druid / 3 Monk has more potential AB if partied with a nice bard...both have similar AC's and HP's.
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:16 am
by pincushion63_ns3
Bard hmmm sounds cool I like bards, my question is how would that work tho since you need so much wisdom there not much left for charisma to make the spells work. or is it all song no spells? pluss do you start out bard or druid?
I started a 26 monk/10 DD/14 Druid sofar hes ok but right now he's only lvl 18. I'll repost when he's done if he's any good or not.
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:17 am
by Neversummerplayer_ns3
Starting Stats and Level Sequence:B
21 MONK / 5 DRUID / 10 SHIFTER / 4 MONK in that order
Halfling...Lawful Neutral...
6str/ 15dex/ 12con/ 18 wis/ 13int/ 8cha
1)Alertness
3)expertise
4)+1 dex....THEN PUT ALL POINTS IN WISDOM!!!!
6)improved expertise
9)toughness
12)weapon finesse
15)blind fight
18)Called shot
21)Great Wisdom 1
24)Great Wisdom 2
27)Great Wisdom 3
30)Great Wisdom 4
33)Great Wisdom 5
36)DRAGON SHAPE
39)Armor Skin
40_+43 Discipline,Lore,Tumble, rest in open lock or parry
40_IMPROVED SPELL RESISTANCE 1
This build will be able to tank anything and solo anything with Xi Fu guants and robes with the rest NS gear.. ENJOY Best NS Dragon build and my personal have fun