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OK, so Bard song has been beefed up on NS (from what I hear). Is there any place I could see what the new Bard Bonus Tables looks like? Proper Character Planning requires knowledge of what you are planning.

Originally the AB+ for Bard song capped at +2? Is this still the case? If not, at what levels / skills does it change? How bout the HP and AC bonuses?

Curse Song?

Of course I could level up a bard to lvl 40 and make precise notes along the way, but that would be a extremely difficult and time consuming way of gaining knowledge that surely some else has compiled. Plus I would have a junk lvl 40 character (and seeing as I have 0 lvl 40's now I sincerely do NOT wish to level a straight class bard up to 40 just to track song changes)

max bard song for ab and ac is 30 lvls of bard with 100 perfrom. this will give a +5ab and +8ac. the more cha you have the more hps you get.

Thanks. my main concern was the AB progression. Could you spare the details on what lvl for +3 and +4 and +5 AB bonuses begin? To me, the rest of the benefits are just fluff.

The reason I ask is I am trying to create a melee toon with the max unbuffed AB possible (68). So far I have only found a way to get to 65, but I keep trying combinations (on paper). Since Bard Song is long lasting and non-dispellable it will do in my considerations for AB.

Anyone got a formula for an unbuffed (and non song'd) melee AB of 68 or better? (this does include all equipment though)

an AA can get an ab in the 70s. i haven't found it to be worthwhile, though.

So what was that post from Dr_Fangorn saying AB+ was capped at 68 all about?

http://www.nsrealm.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 55&start=0

Did I misunderstand something?

Whenever I've taken a look at what the game actually uses for an AB+ modifier, it has always capped out softwarewise at 68 for me, despite whatever my AB+ says it is on the character sheet.

I just popped onto Pacific and tried a few things out. There are lots of discrepancies between what your character sheet tells you and what the computer actually uses...for instance, my fully buffed combat cleric has a +77AB/4 attacks on his character sheet, but hits with only a 67. My arcane archer, however, has a +71/4 attacks on his character sheet, but hits with a 72.

So basically, I'm saying, I was wrong, 68 is not the maximum, 72 is, but my other point is, don't trust what the character sheet tells you.

Since max ab you can get from the weapon + buffs = +20.. you don't have 100 ab even if the sheet says you have that..

im 99% 72 isn't the max

I belive the highest you can hit melee (unbuffed) on NS is 70. If anyone has beaten that, I'd love to see it sometime.

As for archers, mid-70's is possible without buffs (don't recall the exact number).

Highest Melee unbuffed I have seen is 69. Not sure how you'd get to 70.

fighter/wm, 10/30?

max bard song is +6ab and +8ac, i was wrong in my earlier post.

and maxed curse is -5 ac -2 ab, i believe, which woud functionally add +11 ab +10 ac to the party.

Blaskor wrote:Highest Melee unbuffed I have seen is 69. Not sure how you'd get to 70.

http://www.ualberta.ca/~jwiwchar/NS/70AB.jpg

Showoff.

BTW, how goes the construction on the LRT across from UAH?