Dispel magic

[VOWOFSILENCE]

Can a DM or dev plz answer this.

How exactly does dispel magic work? like what happens to see if it works and what is the difference between lesser dispel,dispel magic, and greater dispell as well as mords?

Also do any feats imrove your chances like spell penetration or spell focus etc ? any help would be appreciated thankyou

[TheBestDeception]

Each dispell magic spell allows for a check to be made against buffs on your target. If this check is reached or surpassed, the individual buff is removed from this target. The DC is as follows:

11 + caster level

(i.e. 10 Cleric / 10 fighter = DC 21 buffs... 20 Cleric = DC 31 buffs)

For the dispells, there are 3 levels: lesser, dispell, and greater (as you pointed out). Each has a respective number of caster levels that they allow to be made against the DC to determine if the buff is removed. Lesser counts up to 5 caster levels, dispell counts up to 10, and greater dispell counts up to 20 (contrary to what the description says [15]). This constant number is then added to a 1d20 roll for each individual buff to see if it can meet or beat the DC.

For example, on the above 10/10 cleric, lets say a 20 Druid hits him with Greater Dispell...

20+ 1d20 = 21-40 range vs. DC 21... EVERY buff will be removed every time.

For the 20 cleric, it is a bit more difficult...

20+ 1d20 = 21-40 range vs. DC 31... each individual buff has about a 50% chance of being stripped, allowing a good chance that the cleric will retain some of them after the dispell.

One more thing, focuses in ABJURATION allow for higher dispell checks, to the amount of +2 every focus taken, max +6. The highest check one can gain is +26, with a greater dispell, 20+ levels, and epic abjuration.

[VOWOFSILENCE]

Well thank you this information is excellent, can you plz just clear up 2 points?

1. the DC is 11+caster lvl, is this maxed at+20 so it is 31? or is it really caster lvl so if im 30th cleric my buffs are DC41? in your info the max possible is 1d20 + 26 (greater dispel and all abjuration focuses) for a total of 27-46 not that good.

2. You mentioned Lesser dispel, Dispel and Greater dispel, can you please explain how Mordenkainen's Disjunction fits into all this ?? or is it a waste of a ninth lvl spell as greater dispeling is the max?

Once again thankyou for the Info

[TheBestDeception]

Well thank you this information is excellent, can you plz just clear up 2 points?

1. the DC is 11+caster lvl, is this maxed at+20 so it is 31? or is it really caster lvl so if im 30th cleric my buffs are DC41? in your info the max possible is 1d20 + 26 (greater dispel and all abjuration focuses) for a total of 27-46 not that good.

2. You mentioned Lesser dispel, Dispel and Greater dispel, can you please explain how Mordenkainen's Disjunction fits into all this ?? or is it a waste of a ninth lvl spell as greater dispeling is the max?

Once again thankyou for the Info

DC for the dispell is only capped by max clvl. Therefore, the max DC one can get is 51 (40 + 11).

The check to beat the DC is maxed out at 20 + 6 + 1d20. If you are solid caster @ lvl 40, you are essentially invulnerable to "dispells".

Mords does not show a DC check. Instead, it acts as the line of spells from the "Spell Breach" line. It automatically removes a set number of defensive spells, such as mantles, stoneskins, premonitions, etc... without any sort of check, while lowering SR by 10.

[Death Dealer1]

dispell will take your buffs and mords will strip you naked...fun combos to kill mages everywhere.

[Kromix]

now teh caster lvl is the class caster? or total caster...


10wiz/10 cleric (per say) = dc 21? or 31...

[TheBestDeception]

dispell will take your buffs and mords will strip you naked...fun combos to kill mages everywhere.

Not exactly.

Mords will only strip spells listed in its subset of defensive buffs. Spells not directly related to defense (of which, I do not have a compilation) are not effected... but these include Bulls Str (and the other ability buffs), Aid, Bless, other AB modifiers... barkskin... ultravision / see invis / TS, and so on. It does not automatically strip all buffs.

now teh caster lvl is the class caster? or total caster...


10wiz/10 cleric (per say) = dc 21? or 31...

Caster level depends on your individual caster class. In your description, the DC will be 21 for cleric spells and 21 for wizard spells.

In another case that better illustrates the way it works, take a wiz 10 / cleric 20. Wizard spells = 21 DC, Cleric spells = 31 DC. Remember that spells are separated by class type and linked attribute; dispell checks are no different.

[Death Dealer1]

i know, mords stips the buffs that make a mage harder to kill ie: the DR spells and buffs. dispell basically tries to get rid of most things that enhance your char as a whole.