Pure Prestige classes

[LinuxPup]

Druids are spellcasters.... does anyone use them for anything other than dragons? Dragons aren't meant to be the primary focus of druids.

[Nyeleni]

Not really, pure druid without dragonform just doesnt survive. It's Kd bait. And it doesnt have the same instant kill spells as a cleric, which is the only possibility to win in pvp under such conditions imo.
Haste is only possible at the expense of wisdom.

Of course maybe you don't have to go pure druid. Add some monk for the needed disc and tumble and AC. But then you just end with a worse version of a Cleric Monk. And you aren't able to take dragonform.
Druid SD - works sometimes, but again I prefer Cleric SD, etc. with other combos.

[cRaZy8or5e]

Caster Druids have some devestating spells in their arsenal, BUT, no haste means easy catch and kill for melee toons. IF you sacrifice wisdom for dex for blinding speed, well you might as well take advantage of the epic forms for a druid because your spell casting abilities took a big hit. Can you make them survivable? Sure. But usually survivability comes at the expense of casting power, hence druids becoming specialized in one of their shapes, epic (dragon/undead) or otherwise (elemental for instance).

In PvE a caster druid does pretty well in areas with easily exploited weaknesses (dwarfhome and their low will/low reflex saves). But I'd laugh at anyone trying to take them solo into any of the higher planes (posi, neg, etc) if they didn't have a form to fall back on.

[Rufio]

*builds his druid caster to kill everyone*

Ok, well i do have this one somewhat decent looking druid caster, but i do agree that they are pretty inferior casters, it is like mashing together a cleric and a wizard and removing the best spells. There are a good selection of spells that do moderate damage, but nothing like igms, and there are some decent dc-based spells, but nothing like implosion or any of the bigsby spells..

[Daral0085]

Not really, pure druid without dragonform just doesnt survive. It's Kd bait. And it doesnt have the same instant kill spells as a cleric, which is the only possibility to win in pvp under such conditions imo.
Haste is only possible at the expense of wisdom.

Of course maybe you don't have to go pure druid. Add some monk for the needed disc and tumble and AC. But then you just end with a worse version of a Cleric Monk. And you aren't able to take dragonform.
Druid SD - works sometimes, but again I prefer Cleric SD, etc. with other combos.

Clerics also get travel domain for haste, so once again druid casters are on the losing side of this one.

[LinuxPup]

Well like usual we assume you guys travel in packs... a druid would normally have a bard or cleric or whatever to haste them. To get places they can also use panther form which I believe is hasted.

[Rufio]

can't really rely on a cleric to haste a whole party without mass haste. That is just too many people and buffs to manage.

[Nyeleni]

Well like usual we assume you guys travel in packs... a druid would normally have a bard or cleric or whatever to haste them. To get places they can also use panther form which I believe is hasted.

Funny how other classes manage well without a party, and a druid isn't "enhanced" because it is assumed that they have to travel in parties . Nothing flawed in that logic is it?

Otoh druid is the easiest class to lvl up to epic lvls. There is nothing comparing to that. Summon power and spells blast the Mt away singlehandedly. FD is an easy walk too. Only at higher epic lvls they decline, where other classes begin to rise.

What about if druids could dominate the forest king? Let them dominate sharks and animals from the shadow plane too. The birds in both fire and air plane. Etc.

[mining]

Lord of Flame is an animal, as it turns out {but immune to mind effects like FD wolves}.

Druid buff suggestion: Level 9 spell elemental swarm does haste instead of summon an elemental, for 1 round per level, for 4 party members..

[Nyeleni]

Yes, but that is a bug or even an exploit and shouldn't be brought up here, MM . Tell the devs directly next time, if they don't know yet. If it isn't another silly joke of yours.

Didn't know about elemental swarm - 1 round/lvl is better than nothing. But it's worse than nothing, because it doesn't happen. You must feel really funny to spread such nonsense. Or if it was meant as a suggestion, pls state it a bit clearer next time.

[Shadowalker]

Druid buff suggestion: Level 9 spell elemental swarm does haste instead of summon an elemental, for 1 round per level, for 4 party members..

Umm Nyeleni, it says "Druid buff suggestion" unless he somehow edited without it showing.

[Daral0085]

Druid buff suggestion: Level 9 spell elemental swarm does haste instead of summon an elemental, for 1 round per level, for 4 party members..

Umm Nyeleni, it says "Druid buff suggestion" unless he somehow edited without it showing.

Look at the timestamps. That's called "post facto editing".

[mining]

Druid buff suggestion: Level 9 spell elemental swarm does haste instead of summon an elemental, for 1 round per level, for 4 party members..

Umm Nyeleni, it says "Druid buff suggestion" unless he somehow edited without it showing.

Look at the timestamps. That's called "post facto editing".

I edited it, and a warning saying 'its been edited' is at the bottom. Thus, it has been edited.

[Shadowalker]

guess your right.. the currtent color scheme is such that the edit note is invisible to the eye unless highlighted.. my bad

[Ryddwillow]

Well like usual we assume you guys travel in packs... a druid would normally have a bard or cleric or whatever to haste them. To get places they can also use panther form which I believe is hasted.

You are so full of crap! As a MD you as a pure bard came to pk us and as DM privileges you saw us slaves where we were at tried to pk us. A true druid travels by oneself and panther form is not hasted, either was dire tiger. Have Lokey Play one of these toons and raid like the rest of us. Lokey would die like a wimpering slave.