Twiggy wrote:Shamedmonkey wrote:Not sad at all. Creative. Smart. I find the fact that you hate coming up with good builds to be morally offensive.
cheese is exploiting imbalances in the game. The game is a roleplay game, based on the forgotten realms series. So anything that wouldn't make sense rply, would be a cheese build. a ranger/cleric/monk would be a cheese build. Berg i already posted i wanted to make a ranger. I wouldn't be having this problem with a barbarian. since it is doable. I just wanted to be a ranger. Burr i don't understand how having light armor would give you reflex saves. Having dexterity would. I also posted you would need 26 dex in order to make up the ac (1 base armor and 8 dex mod to the armor is the best light armor out there). but as i already stated making up that dex would hinder the str of the build. Also people throw str builds into the heavy armor because doing both dex and str on a build hinders the build. I know it can be done. But would it be practical and not cheesy. I am building a class while you are building "builds". I want to play a class. you want to play a build. Does that make sense to yall?
Also mining. Multi classing is being a ranger/druid/shifter. Cheesing is being a ranger/cleric/monk.
You are either illiterate, insane or clinically deranged.
cheese is exploiting imbalances in the game.
anything that wouldn't make sense rply, would be a cheese build
Basically, a cheese build is anything that utilises a mixture of classes to get the best possible result. I mean, yeah. PnP has no restrictions on this kind of stuff because its *legit*. The game designers are happy for *power* builders to do stuff that *works* better than a fighter 40, or a 40 paladin, or, hell, the ohsocreative commoner 40.
The game is a roleplay game, based on the forgotten realms series.
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't see Aetheria anywhere in my sourcebooks.
i don't understand how having light armor would give you reflex saves
Because there are 'boots' with bonuses to 'dex' that are greater than '+6' which means that you can, with *any* build, improve reflex with lighter armor.
I also posted you would need 26 dex in order to make up the ac (1 base armor and 8 dex mod to the armor is the best light armor out there).
Yo, I hear you don't like items. Or spells. Rangers get cats grace. Rangers can use glimmerskin boots. Said ranger can thus attain 14 base dex, self buffed +12 magic cap to dex, and thus attain 26 dex buffed.
Also people throw str builds into the heavy armor because doing both dex and str on a build hinders the build.
Oh yah, so you hate power building but you dislike taking the 'hindering' option that is available if you go the non-RP route of being a ranger in heavy armor. Yeah. Oooooook.
I am building a class while you are building "builds".
Do you want a pure class, or something so risque as a 35 ranger/5 harper scout or 35 ranger/5 rogue. Because I can draft one of those for you right now and you can have fun playing the class, or the build of the class.
Here, let me show you something famous among learned DnD players. Its called the monk with no monk levels.
http://tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?t=13119
lokey please show me this str build that uses light armor, i am very interested in seeing it.
I can show you a str build that uses light armor too. Hell, I'll do it in the same part of the above statement where I'll show you a ranger/hs. It'll be informative and helpful to you. (the lack of haste will cripple the build for pvm, but for pvp it should hold out fine)
Also, don't dual rapiers. They're medium weapons, you'll be at -2 more AB.
Secondly, 31/2/7 is inherently better for caster levels and durations etc.
EDIT: 32/1/7 gets you the same number of feats as 30/3/7, so thats probably the best.
