pk -> lost item

disastro · Post by **disastro** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:18 pm

well i learned the hard way today that if you die in pk with less than some amount of gold, you lose a random item to the person who pkd you. i had thought this feature was disabled and wasnt keeping track of cash in an otherwise fun bout of pk. (at least that is the explanation i got for what happened).

its weird since you dont lose cash for dying in pk as far as i know, so wasnt expecting anything to happen if you fall below whatever the threshold is.

if this is intentional it would be cool if an explanatory line was put in the combat log indicating what exactly happened. i.e. 'you have less than x cash, item x given to player y'

also, if this is meant to be the case it would be more consistent to lose cash on EVERY pk, (else have no cash loss and no item loss.)

Aarkon Draco · Post by **Aarkon Draco** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:20 pm

you only loose items/cash when PK occurs in a hostile city by one of the citys players. the player that pks you also gets some xp from it if your close in level.

Celorn · Post by **Celorn** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:25 pm

disastro wrote:well i learned the hard way today that if you die in pk with less than some amount of gold, you lose a random item to the person who pkd you. i had thought this feature was disabled and wasnt keeping track of cash in an otherwise fun bout of pk. (at least that is the explanation i got for what happened).

its weird since you dont lose cash for dying in pk as far as i know, so wasnt expecting anything to happen if you fall below whatever the threshold is.

if this is intentional it would be cool if an explanatory line was put in the combat log indicating what exactly happened. i.e. 'you have less than x cash, item x given to player y'

also, if this is meant to be the case it would be more consistent to lose cash on EVERY pk, (else have no cash loss and no item loss.)

Wow... it's been this way for a LONG time now! At first you ALWAYS lost a randomly equipped item, but people cried about it and nobody was raiding, so it was changed that you need 30k+ (or so) to avoid losing anything.

But the HNs do appreciate your contribution to our mules. Please come to LA again anytime we're around and we can accept more contributions.

golem · Post by **golem** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:29 pm

Ya im looking for a Lumi

$chase$ · Post by **$chase$** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:58 pm

there is no need to explain something that has been going on as long as this has.lol

disastro · Post by **disastro** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:01 pm

its all good. ive just never encountered this before so i was surprised. its weird that you lose items if you are < 30k gold, but if you have over that amount you lose nothing? not sure why its that way.

anyway an explanatory combat log would go a long way.

Celorn · Post by **Celorn** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:19 pm

hmm.. normally you should lose some gold when you are pk'd in 'owned' land by a resident of the land.

next time I'm on come to crossroads and we can test it out ;P.

I'm glad this system is in place, because it takes a BIT of the heat off of LA when people chain-raid, respawning in evenshire and then run a few screens back to LA, at least after a while they have to go and get more gold or the'll start losing things :].

*hat tip* Genius dev solution and flawless execution.

disastro · Post by **disastro** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:34 pm

well it really doesnt do anything for spam raiding since getting gold is pretty trivial, especially if you bind in a spot that doesn't have travel costs to raid like ave/angmar.

Post by **Sparky** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:44 pm

Doesn't sound like it was trivial to me...

Nyeleni · Post by **Nyeleni** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:42 pm

disastro wrote:its all good. ive just never encountered this before so i was surprised. its weird that you lose items if you are < 30k gold, but if you have over that amount you lose nothing? not sure why its that way.

anyway an explanatory combat log would go a long way.

Actually its more like <4-7k gold, depending on the amount you loose. It's random. Thus if at one point you have less gold in the inventory than the random amount, you will loose an item instead (correct me if I'm wrong). Which in my case mostly is a ring. I almost always get a ring or loose one heh.

mgrjebbo · Post by **mgrjebbo** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:27 pm

got a helm a few times

cRaZy8or5e · Post by **cRaZy8or5e** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:39 pm

*bemoans loss of glimmer kamas, dwarven crafted sswords and lumi smiter*
<--------- always forgets to obtain more cash though not as forgetful as Kermit
*cheers for chanter blades, and other goodies*

Nyeleni · Post by **Nyeleni** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:41 am

You sure you aren't talking about disarm?

cRaZy8or5e · Post by **cRaZy8or5e** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:46 am

*begins to sob anew over two lost glimmer kamas and a skull harvester to a particularly EVILLE as in the Fru-itts of the Deville, bard [cough] Jekyl [cough]*

Must you always point out my shame and open those old wounds Nye?

*New rounds of sobs, blows noes with snot soaked handkercheif*

So no I didn't mean disarmed lol. Though I've been the victim of being disarmed as well. Forgot to add a drowned pirate blade to that list, first weapon that was ever taken from me in my noob days by another particularly evil player,

he is an "unknown one" but maybe not so unknown then or now

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disastro · Post by **disastro** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:42 am

Sparky wrote:Doesn't sound like it was trivial to me...

heh quite true, i am living proof that this is a most effective noob tax

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