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Trogdorbob
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Post by Trogdorbob »

Well here are my two sense as well. Everyone else is doing it so why cant I. :lol: Ok SO.

I agree with Big D. I have also seen what others have posted and what they have said. I dont think that I have to make a reference as there is a search capability on this forum to find out what people have said. Please keep in mind I am not targeting anyone to a specific time or place. Alot of us, but not all, have in one time or another done our "whining". If you think you havent then start searching the forums and sort out some 4 years of posts and im sure you'll find at least one time. It is easy for us to forget the past and things we have said and easy for us to be quick on the critisism while we are selves may be just as guilty of the same incident.

Whining is'nt always what was intended. Others just think its whining because someone thinks the "whiner" is being soft and emotional about a specific incident. Then on the same token that "whiner" will go off and make a statement as to "get used to it "and/or "thats the game get over it", references.

Are these tossing of flagarent opinions really meant to "toughen" up the person and their play style or is it meant to get them to quit playing and not have to deal with the not so thick skinned. If the opinions are meant to steer the person in a direction or to see another option then definately think about the way the post is being written. I know for a fact that Big D has gotten me to think about the posts that i make from a time that I had talked to Big D about something. In turn it has also brought to my attention the treatment of other players on the forum and how I may have written things down or not made a stand.

Something about being in the adult world is that not everyone has the same opinion as I do and I have to deal with these every day. Part of being a person is being able to withstand personal attacks and possibly contemplate if the insults have any merit. If they do then something about me has to change. If not, then I dont bother stressing about it. Life is really too short to worry about what someone says or does. I have come to these terms as I have suffered a very serious injury 2 years ago. I am still dealing with this todate and getting rehabilitation for it as well. Difference of opinions comes and personal attacks come regualarly for me so I can understand where people come from when they feel like they have been personally attacked. I also know that I have personally attacked others for no good reason as well. Who's right and who's wrong?
Remember it is only an OPINION or a GUIDELINE of rules set for us to enjoy the game. The DM's have the option of bending these as they see fit for they are the DUNGEON MASTERS of this server and have that power.

A person once said, " A fool spews at the mouth, and a wise man says few words."
Not sure where this comes from but Im sure its there. :D

Happy gaming everyone.
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Post by -BannyD- »

i like
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Aarkon Draco
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Post by Aarkon Draco »

i think we all need to remember that tone and emotional state does not translate to text hardly at all so lets all be careful about joking comments ect use smileys and jk to show that any jibes are in jest
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de_slider
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Post by de_slider »

The following is just an example of what has also happened so many times on these forums. One or two sentences pulled from a large post then ranted about. Which of course leads to a whole mess of stuff which eventually becomes unrelated to the original topic. Just look at the number of threads that get "locked" because they are: A - So far off topic or B - have turned into a flame war.

Have a look at the first quote and see how it "could be" taken when it stands alone. How much out of context can it get. Where could it lead to by possible comments and replies.
Trogdorbob wrote:the "whiner" is being soft and emotional
Now look at the same quote with the full intent. It reads very different from when it stands alone.
Trogdorbob wrote:Whining is'nt always what was intended. Others just think its whining because someone thinks the "whiner" is being soft and emotional about a specific incident.
Often, someone will read a post then lock onto just 1 sentence or a very small part of it, misunderstand, take it out of context then rant away. I pass on to you all a suggestion I was once given and it works.

If you read something that really pisses you off on the first read. Do not reply. Instead wait a couple of hours, re-read it. Even wait a day or so. Then come back to it when your able to write with thought instead of emotion. If it really bothers you that much, that you feel the dire need to reply, why not just PM the author and ask him/her if this is what then meant by their post and find out if your emotion was/is justified.

You might discover that how you re-acted actually had nothing to do with the intention behind the words. Plus what it can do is give the author an opportunity to make changes (edit) if they feel that it was mis-understood that strongly by virtue of chosen words posted.

A famous person (I have no clue who but it sounds good) once said:
I know that you believe you understand what you think I said,
But I am not sure you realize that what you heard is NOT what I meant.
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Nyeleni
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Post by Nyeleni »

Although I agree, writing "nothing" is much better if you don't have anything substantial to add, it is not rationale to ask people to act like machines and rationalize everything.
Why do we misunderstand each other? It's simple: we all have different history, backgrounds, environments. We use the same words but those words have different meanings. And some people even use a language which is foreign to their country.
If I say tomato eg, some may think of food, others of a song, and there are many possibilities more. And yet it is only a tomato.
To interprete the words of another being, it is therefore very important to read in context. The clearer the statement the better of course. Thus are flaming, degrading, infiruating statements not helpful at all.
Then again we are all human, and we all have strong emotions from time to time. It is better to vent than to hold back. If you have to add something which will be insulting because you feel the same way, then by all means write it down, but don't send it. You will see only the act of writing it down, will ease your fury. At least it works for me.
And it keeps me out of trouble most of the time...
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