Shapeshifting not allowed anymore in raids?

Gornickthy · Post by **Gornickthy** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:06 pm

mgrjebbo wrote:funny only the people who do all the complaining wish me to leave..... hmmm

You want yourself to leave? Ok, I for once agree with you.

Post by **Binkyuk** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:38 am

Could we get back on topic please?

de_slider · Post by **de_slider** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:08 am

Binkyuk wrote:Could we get back on topic please?

Thank you.

SkotG · Post by **SkotG** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:04 am

Binkyuk wrote:Could we get back on topic please?

As a Circle member I second or third this. (depending on your view

mgrjebbo · Post by **mgrjebbo** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:18 pm

sorry didnt meant to get so off topic. however i post non-sense in this topic for a reason. its no different than all the million topics about PM's. Its not going to happen. the devs are working on the problem. when they fix it i am sure everyone will know. until then know this. i personaly have posted a few times on shifter crashes and the effect they have on the server. all those times i was told the problem was being looked into and it was taken as what you say..."bashing others".

so try to have an enlighten debate in these parts and get burned at the stake. then get burned for following along with the others and posting non-sense. you tell me this make any sense to you?.... its like a democratic convention around here, everyone has a great time putting down all the ideas of others but none has any solutions to the problems at hand....

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Gornickthy · Post by **Gornickthy** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:26 pm

Nyeleni wrote:Apparently Chase banned shapeshifting from raids, attacking and defending of course. Could we have an official ruling to this rumour? At least The Circle would be very interested in this, for obvious reasons.
Thanks

This is the topic.

Binkyuk wrote:Could we get back on topic please?

You are a Dev, part of the powers that be. So if we are to get back on topic then please enlighten us on the issue with the information from your side of the boards please.

de_slider · Post by **de_slider** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:40 pm

OK... I'll restate the question..

Because one PC, did a shout making an accusation of shifter exploit being used during one particular raid, 1 DM did a shout stating that if he saw anyone shifting during a raid or while defending he would deal with them which has left many confused.

So are specialized shifters like pure class druid to dragon form or druids to epic kobold commando allow to raid and defend?

We are not talking about rogue's, bards, rangers, wizards etc (or combo builds that have some druid in them) who have weak shift forms or who use spells or scrolls to shift. These weaker forms of shifter usually do crash the server.

Blystos Re · Post by **Blystos Re** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:04 pm

While I don't agree with yanking shifters from the mix, I have to say it would be nice to get a final ruling in this.

The shout by the DM seems rather extreme, so some clarification on "the rules of raiding" would help.

$chase$ · Post by **$chase$** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:03 pm

i stated knowing your going to go into a raid and die causing the server to crash and item and xp to be lost and will not be put up with.
if you knowingly are going to crash the ns4 server that will NOT be dealt with lightly.

THERE IS A SHIFTER BUG..IF YOU KNOWINGLY BRING YOUR SHIFTER INTO A 20 PLAYER BATTLE KNOWING YOU WILL DIE. CAUSING THE SERVER TO CRASH. GUESS WHAT I WILL DO

Post by **Amoenotep** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:07 pm

while i can't comment on a statement made by a dm in a moment where it seemed one person had found a way to exploit the shifting crash in order to not lose the fight and crash the server....it would be pretty evident by the statement that shifters as a whole aren't banned and only the action of using shifter powers for the sole intentions of trying to crash the server is what it was aimed at.

just because i tell my kids not to put ketchup on the floor doesn't mean that they can no longer use it.

Lorkar1 · Post by **Lorkar1** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:37 pm

With all that said, how about conferring with the devs on 3.5? They have solved the problem with the shifter server crash. They even have a guild of shifters. They have also been able to merge the gauntlet issue as well. Just a thought.

Post by **Amoenotep** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:54 pm

they have different shifter merge scripts than we do...thiers are pretty straight forward, ours are alot more complicated.

-BannyD- · Post by **-BannyD-** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:06 pm

Amoenotep wrote:they have different shifter merge scripts than we do...thiers are pretty straight forward, ours are alot more complicated.

if its just from merging items...change the scripts? im not sure what kind of stuff is involved in those scripts...but if its just inventory items it would seem pretty simple to solve.

or are the unique stats/abilities some forms get here given by merged items, like dragon aura and increased claw damage

Post by **Amoenotep** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:33 pm

maybe they don't merge for a reason

mgrjebbo · Post by **mgrjebbo** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:56 pm

seems to be that chase was expecting common sense to prevail and i love the ketchup analogy.

serisouly though, i know that this is being looked into because i did a bit of helping to identifiy the problem a short while back. however to think that someone would make/play a shifter for the sole purpose of crashing the server is very bothersome.

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