Pally Pure Class Holy Sword

Daedalus · Post by **Daedalus** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:35 am

I have encountered a problem with the pure pally Holy Sword buff.
Firstly it seems to take effect before level 21, if you join the Purist Guild (I did at lvl 16 and got the bonus against neutral) but hey I'm not complaining about that.

What I have noticed is that the enchantment appears to be applied similarly to job bonus ab, in that ab buffs overide it as it doesn't apply directly to you ab but rather it is a special effect. So if for exampl you have 27AB and with Holy Sword sword you have 30 AB. If you the cast prayer you have 30AB base and 30AB against Evil (at least that what the character sheet says havent tested with in game AB). This really makes Holy sword bonus for pallies a bit redundant because at lvl 40 the enchant bonus is +10 which is the same as a +7 weapon (albiet rare but they are in the game) +3 from prayer. I think we can all say we would prefer to have 13 ab in this case.

If this can't be fixed I suggest it is just appied as a 'normal' enchant bonus similar to Greater Enchant Weapon because I don't see it as a major problem to just give them the ability to hit good characters as well (I know it is against the RP point of the Pure Class bonuses

) but still I would like to see this fixed in some way otherwise the Pally's aint getting the maximum potential for AB.

Aarkon Draco · Post by **Aarkon Draco** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:04 am

the AB bonuses listed on the sheet are almost always wrong reviewing your combat loggs are the shure method of determining your getting your bonuses. i suspect this is the same for the holy sword spell.

Post by **LinuxPup** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:47 am

Yeah the character sheet is known for errors like that... I tested it with my pure paladin, and with buffs even though the vs. evil/neutral didn't show up as being higher in the character sheet, it did in the combat log when I attacked someone... so it seems Holy Sword is still really good.

As for letting you join the purist guild early, that's a bug with Chuck the Purist and the Holy Sword script... fixed it. For future reference, if anyone finds an exploit, please PM it to me privately instead of posting it publicly on the forums.

Daedalus · Post by **Daedalus** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:40 am

my apologies

Aarkon Draco · Post by **Aarkon Draco** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:21 am

oh no need to apologize it might of been wrong always good to check such things.

Celorn · Post by **Celorn** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:46 pm

That's cool... pure paly seems like a nice idea, but the lack of haste is a slight problem.

What about SMITE evil? Does that also extend to neutrals with the pure paly?

Post by **LinuxPup** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:06 pm

Unfortunately Smite Evil is hardcoded, so I was unable to change it.

As far as a lack of haste... had to give them some disadvantage since their other abilities are pretty powerful. My pure pally has blinding speed though, so its not always a problem... or you can just travel with someone who can cast haste on you.

Aarkon Draco · Post by **Aarkon Draco** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:31 pm

that and the purge should kill any spell haste on enemys leveling the playing field

Celorn · Post by **Celorn** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:48 pm

Damn bioware ;] hardcoding everything *sigh*

But that does help me decide on a build for paladin... I was just working out the AB+ from divine might vs. the DEX or STR AB+ bonus, and it seems the sweet spot** is a base of 20 CHA... Or 26 for a smiter build.

Blinding speed, yeah... the only problem there is you have to use a few tomes to balance out stats otherwise your ab gets nerfed & it limits your weapon choices by a lot -- but the +10 vs. most of the server opens up a few dex weapons that nobody uses.

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CHA:+bonus| (base) {buf} | STR: (base) {buf} +AB || Final AB div.mite + STR boost
+5   | (16)   {28}   |  (36)   {48}   +19   || +20
+10  | (20)   {32}   |  (34)   {46}   +18   || +20
+15  | (28)   {40}   |  (26)   {38}   +14   || +17 * Great Smite
+20  | (38)   {50}   |  (18)   {26}   +8    || +12 * Great Smite

Nolan Silvermoon · Post by **Nolan Silvermoon** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:51 pm

hmmmmmmmm, "taps finger on chin"