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Post by -BannyD- »

Beryn, in regards to game balance, i agree with being neutral. No faction has 'control' over a travel dragon other than NC (tc too i guess). Western slope, Avendell, and Oasis are all neutral points....why not beryn? oasis is a haven for people running dwarf/earth plane...why cant beryn be used for zons/pos plane?

though its not neutral due to storyline...however i dont quite understand how NC has control over beryn when there are still battles going on between AO and NC past beryn (or closer to NC from my perspective).

NC has a rediculous amount of bind points already so 1 less thats purely in their control wouldnt hurt.

id like to suggest someone tabulates a list of bind points per faction (that are outside the city) and their locations before more argument. I know AO has two...sleeth outpost and cracks of ithyr...neither of which are in that great a position...dont think there is one in yuan ti.

NC has beryn, hallowtop, highlands, and how many outposts?
RK...yea i pretty much dont know of the bind points from the other factions. NC just always stuck out to me as having a lot and in good positions.
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Post by Amoenotep »

SL=1
AO=2
RK=2? i think
LA=0
MA=1
NC=6 if my count is right
TC=0? i can't think of any out of the city
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Post by Ajantis. »

There's a map on the wiki that shows where they are.

There is no rift shard on Hallowtop.
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Post by Binkyuk »

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I didn't think changing the highlands inn bind point would be so controversial. Someone complained that it's yellow but allowed anyone to bind, so I aligned it.
Mebbe I should've just changed the colour...

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Post by cely »

RK has at least 4.

1. Dwarven Stronghold: Upper (newbie spawn)
2. Full Beard Tavern
3. Black Hills Inn
4. That little hut (tavern?) in the Duergar Tunnels

There's probably another in the Temple of Moradin, but I can't remember. Hopefully Moradin won't strike me down :?
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Post by Amoenotep »

out of the city Cely...OUT of the city ;)
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Post by Amoenotep »

yeah, you could change it back to neutral and change the color...then Gorn could mark up a "win for the oppressed MA"
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It doesn't make sense for Highlands to be a neutral binding point. It's an NC port town, guarded by NC gaurds. The only reason anyone would want to bind there is to attack Daeron repeatedly.
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Post by Gornickthy »

Binkyuk wrote::O
I didn't think changing the highlands inn bind point would be so controversial. Someone complained that it's yellow but allowed anyone to bind, so I aligned it.
Mebbe I should've just changed the colour...
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It really was the a combination of a couple things that brought this to light. The fact that a bind point was changed, yes was one. The major point is that the Beryn bind point is located at a dragon, is inside NC territory, and is faction specific while the same holds true for the oasis but it is neutral. They should either both be neutral or both be faction specific. They both have jobs allocated to the area, both have dragons right there, and are both access points to other areas. Beryn would be a great bind point to those going to Zons, but everyone outside of NC is forced to bind at Ave, or maybe AO has some bind point nearby... I don't know the AO bind points. It is a greater hike to Zons by binding in Ave than it is to go to the areas described for the oasis bind point. The ONLY thing that would change by making the oasis bind point faction specific is the cost of travel. If Beryn is to be faction specific then so should the oasis, and the same holds true for a neutral bind point at both locations. I strongly believe and suggest that a change be made to one or the other.
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Well, Western Slope should be an SL only binding point then too, by your arguement.

Honestly, I don't have an objection to having the bind points that are located within a faction be faction specific.
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Post by Amoenotep »

actually...Beryn being neutral isn't that far fetched as the town serves as a stopping point for multiple factions and NC/AO constantly fight all around it.
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Post by Ajantis. »

Its not neutral tho...its a town that is a member of the Northern Coalition, controlled and populated by the Coalition and citzens of Daeron. AO might be fighting for it, but it is still under NC control.

I've also seen it as a town once controlled by AO, or once was neutral, and that rift shard used to be an AO bind point, however after the town fell to the Northern Coalition that bind point became an NC shard.
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Post by Xyxyili »

Ajantis. wrote:It doesn't make sense for Highlands to be a neutral binding point. It's an NC port town, guarded by NC gaurds. The only reason anyone would want to bind there is to attack Daeron repeatedly.
The Highlands bind point is 2 zones away from Daeron. It is yellow and there is no raiding bindpoint anywhere in the world that is closer to a city. This bind point should not be neutral.

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Post by Valhor »

that actually makes sense

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Post by -BannyD- »

it used to be set as a neutral bind point, or was that when you could bind wherever no matter what the color? the NPCs were always the same.

i just dont think its quite right for a faction to be in control of a dragon transit
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