Lobbying for Paladin pure class bonuses.

Ade · Post by **Ade** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:35 pm

Hi, along with me there is another pure paladin named Mystic Knight who would like some pure class bonuses for his character.

From what I understand, pure Paladin isn't the greatest PvPer, but in order to have a diverse world, pure pallys are needed. So this is where pure class bonuses come in. We don't want everyone "settling" for the same characters just for PvP ability, do we?

If you guys, the DM team, are planning to add some more bonuses to the Purist Guild in Avendel, please consider Paladin for the future. Thanks.

mgrjebbo · Post by **mgrjebbo** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:51 pm

paladin is the next in line i think. and your not the only ones with pure palis, i have one in the high 30's.

Post by **lordshelt** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:06 pm

personally, I think the ranger is in way more need of a pure class bonus.

Post by **LinuxPup** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:09 pm

personally, I think the ranger is in way more need of a pure class bonus.

Agreed... rogues too.

-BannyD- · Post by **-BannyD-** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:15 pm

lordshelt wrote:personally, I think the ranger is in way more need of a pure class bonus.

rogue > fighter > barbarian > ranger > paladin > sorc > cleric > wizard > druid > bard

is the order i think they should be done in

Post by **Amoenotep** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:15 pm

i'm not sure which burner is first..but i always thought it was ranger then pally then rogue...but, what do i know

Ajantis. · Post by **Ajantis.** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:25 pm

Paladins in my opinion could use a bonus more considering after level 20, they seem to become increasingly ineffective, especially in the planes. Rangers at least can have favored enemies.

-BannyD- · Post by **-BannyD-** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:57 pm

Ajantis. wrote:Paladins in my opinion could use a bonus more considering after level 20, they seem to become increasingly ineffective, especially in the planes. Rangers at least can have favored enemies.

paladins have divine favor for +dmg as well as other useful spells, not to mention divine might + shield. favored enemies is good..as long as you are fighting your favored enemies. paladin stuff works vs anything

rogues are even worse...they cant sneak, cant crit, can barely hide, cant get enough trap components to make much use of those, cant tank long with no discipline....i dont know how Aiea has a lvl 40 pure rogue.

Korr · Post by **Korr** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:03 pm

Paladins also have smite evil, and the epic feat great smiting.... Take a few of those and watch your smite damage go through the roof. Up to 10x ur paladin level. 400 damage per smite (without buffs or weapon or anything). can get that up to 3 times per day... anyone smell a boss hunter? (just to say the least about it)

Ajantis. · Post by **Ajantis.** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:32 pm

Yeah, not a lot of evil in the planes though...

Ade · Post by **Ade** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:26 am

Hmmm I'd better take Great Smiting then, I must not have understood it when I read it. Should I take Overwhelming Critical, too? I still have the opportunity for a few more feats.

I've been scouring the Mountain Trail and Giant Mountain for a +2 Charisma Tome with no luck (I've heard they can be found there).

Does anyone have one they would let go cheaply? LoL

Also, it's great to know that other pure class bonuses are in the works. I apologize for my past frustrations, most of it was due to MD always playing on the fringe of the rules, and knowing it. Good riddance.

kgb · Post by **kgb** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:41 am

Caution there Ade - don't take Overwhelming Crit. It is superseded by the Massive Crits on all weapons, so you are effectively wasting a feat.

Aarkon Draco · Post by **Aarkon Draco** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:23 am

great smite requires 25 cha base and if all feats are taken its +440 damage not 400.

back on topic as stated paladins rangers and rogues all need some pure class perks more than other classes. order of release dont matter much to me tho i believe paladins have already had a good bit of work done on their pure class perks so by all means finalize it then hit the others.

Celorn · Post by **Celorn** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:57 pm

-BannyD- wrote:
lordshelt wrote:personally, I think the ranger is in way more need of a pure class bonus.
rogue > fighter > barbarian > ranger > paladin > sorc > cleric > wizard > druid > bard

is the order i think they should be done in

I'd alter that list slightly (and you forgot monk) -- druids should be ahead of the other casters since they are the only ones that can't haste - and that's really a requirement for effective PvP on NS4..

My list would probably be:

fighter > barb > ranger > rogue > paladin > druid > cleric > bard > sorc > monk > wizard

I put cleric in before bard due to some factions not having travel domain - since a speed boost seems to be a basic feat. of the pure classes so far.

I'd put ranger and rogue ahead of paladin since paly can wear heavy armor, and can survive longer and has better buffs.

Post by **Amoenotep** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:53 pm

haste is only a requirement for pvp and playing when your opponent runs away. and if he's running away..its not pvp, its a car chase