Roguish character forfeiting own faction still able to raid?

Post by **LinuxPup** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:08 pm

Some DMs frown on people raiding relics for other factions... They'll give warnings about that

Kirg · Post by **Kirg** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:38 pm

Binkyuk wrote:but you can already be a 'mercenary' against any faction other than your own. There's nothing to stop, say, the AO faction from recruiting PMs and shifters to help with raiding. They can even carry the relic.

Myrdyr wrote:In the past (including recent past), dms have punished such characters in similar circumstances without any notice to the player in game or in the forums. Needless to say, some dms think very poorly of such behavior.

Have you been paying any attention? Yes, you can, and no, you shouldn't. It's just plain wrong, that is why DMs will punish you. I'm sure, you have seen this happen, especially when no Gods are around. Doesn't make it right.

Kirg · Post by **Kirg** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:50 pm

Binkyuk wrote:but you can already be a 'mercenary' against any faction other than your own. There's nothing to stop, say, the AO faction from recruiting PMs and shifters to help with raiding. They can even carry the relic.

Gods will stop you. Even if some think they can get away with this, doesn't make it right.
Banding together to fight monsters or raiding an enemy faction is one thing, but carrying a relic to a hostile cradle takes it too far.

Findor · Post by **Findor** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:36 pm

Some DMs frown on people raiding relics for other factions... They'll give warnings about that

Is there any explicit rule against that? If not, DMs should not arbitrarily rewrite the law, so to speak. We have enough problems with the Supreme Court of our land doing that (just who, in their right mind, would construe "free speech" to be mean, among other things, disrobing - talk about logically indefensible interpretations!). If they want to make it a rule, then fine. I'm certainly okay with that.

Dynmi · Post by **Dynmi** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:02 pm

DMs Roleplay as gods, they are free to their own personalities and should be free to interpret the laws in their own way (Within reason)

Lorkar1 · Post by **Lorkar1** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:07 pm

Since none of the powers that be have weighed in on this I will take it as implied consent to do as I will.

Gornickthy · Post by **Gornickthy** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:51 pm

Lorkar1 wrote:Since none of the powers that be have weighed in on this I will take it as implied consent to do as I will.

You have my consent. Do as you will.

Post by **Sparky** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:07 pm

Well Lorkar, the answer to your questions is said action is frowned upon. So procede at your own risk.

Go'f · Post by **Go'f** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:59 pm

Sparky wrote:Well Lorkar, the answer to your questions is said action is frowned upon. So procede at your own risk.

which means if you have a RP reason you might not get a big bootprint hehehe

Merrip · Post by **Merrip** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:26 am

Yeah I have RP reason for my SL guy to raid LA to give to relic to RK *nods*

Yep yep pfft sometime there is no RP just don't do it

npasher · Post by **npasher** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:33 am

For the most part, it looks like most on NS4 don't wan't to roleplay. We are trying to start LOD as a RP guild and boy let me tell you, I have to beat away the toons that want to join us!

As for the rogue toons. Isn't it role play if an AO raider pays/bribes a SL toon to help take the LA relic?

Merrip · Post by **Merrip** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:37 am

Role Play will only take you so far, remember as a servant of the Just Gods for example you "will" never make deal with evil, you shall smite them down.

As an evil player sure there may be a way to screw over you opponent, good and evil alike. Research what you want to RP, learn your dogma, learn your character, learn your god and it's ways, learn the way your character should and would react to certain things.

Remember if you have doubts just do not do it.

npasher · Post by **npasher** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:44 am

I have seen the servants of the just gods make many deals with evil. Isn't that part of the standard Fantasy story line? The do-gooder hero makes a pact with the lesser evil to vanquish the greater threat. Deep inside our hero hopes he can turn the evil one to the light. Instead, at the end, the "lesser" evil uses the opportunity to gain power from the defeat of the "greater" evil. He turns on Dudley Do Right and the plot thickens!

Our goalremains to gain power subtley but surely. DD is the Hammer we are the Rapier.

Sorry to get off topic!

Merrip · Post by **Merrip** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:46 am

have seen the servants of the just gods make many deals with evil. Isn't that part of the standard Fantasy story line? The do-gooder hero makes a pact with the lesser evil to vanquish the greater threat. Deep inside our hero hopes he can turn the evil one to the light. Instead, at the end, the "lesser" evil uses the opportunity to gain power from the defeat of the "greater" evil. He turns on Dudley Do Right and the plot thickens!

You research the dogma or Illmater, Torm, Tyr etc or any other Deities that is similiar to the Triad and you will find no they will not make pacts with evil.

Even a lesser god like Oghma, whom I have played under a lot, will not make pacts with evil and he is not even LG aligned, some more good aligned deities will allow for some things like this, but you will find a lot will not.

Good is sacrficial lambs, it is a lot easier to RP a evil aligned character they are more flexible then good aligned characters.

npasher · Post by **npasher** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:54 am

Merrip wrote:Good is sacrficial lambs, it is a lot easier to RP a evil aligned character they are more flexible then good aligned characters.

I agree with that! It looks like we have a good debate going on two different forums. I look forward to facing/allying with you on NS4.

Okay, no more hijacking of your thread!

So does any think its wrong to hire a rogue toon to raid a relic as long as it wasn't his former faction? Or is it wrong to hire a toon from another faction to raid another's relic?