Resting System Discussion
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I have to agree here with Chimaira with regards to balance, in that the discrepancy between mages and non-mages will only get worse with epic levels. The auto-quicken feat will essentially double the number of spells a mage can cast in a round, and auto-still will allow mages to manipulate two types of DR/DI. One potential solution is increase the available saves on items or, dare I say it, to allow certain forms of immunity. I would also point out that Dev Crit, while potentially an unfair epic feat, is really no worse than Mord/FoD spammage by a nec focus mage.
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garrykasparov wrote: I would also point out that Dev Crit, while potentially an unfair epic feat, is really no worse than Mord/FoD spammage by a nec focus mage.
Dev Crit's should to be a tougher to work for with limited magic items. You won't be able to buff up your weak stats with gear to make up for the points you need to put into STR, so you'll be exposed there.
(Not really related to the thread topic, I guess...)
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Why should everything be so balanced anyway?
I don’t play as a mage nor do I have any inclination to ever use their classes, but I sure do like fighting / partying with them. To my knowledge I have yet to lose one pvp against a mage. They are most definitely not uber-powerful.
If a rest period is implemented for them that’s totally going to slow down our partying activities and for what? – so a couple of people can feel less pissed because they were losing challenges against lvl 20 wizards.
Hmmm, me thinks a lot of people need to work on their builds and tactics before demanding major game alterations.
Amen.
I don’t play as a mage nor do I have any inclination to ever use their classes, but I sure do like fighting / partying with them. To my knowledge I have yet to lose one pvp against a mage. They are most definitely not uber-powerful.
If a rest period is implemented for them that’s totally going to slow down our partying activities and for what? – so a couple of people can feel less pissed because they were losing challenges against lvl 20 wizards.
Hmmm, me thinks a lot of people need to work on their builds and tactics before demanding major game alterations.
Amen.
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There goes sheep being pointlessly contradictory again...
There should be a balance because this is a setting where they players are all pitted against eachother
All i think should be done is that mages shouldn't get the same armor as fighters, so they have the physical weakness they're SUPPOSED to have in exchange for great magical power
And you're simply lying if you say they don't have an advantage, I have not been able to defeat a mage that's even a few levels lower than me, and I'm sick of this BS of getting shot down in 5 seconds by some trigger happy mage every time I spend a half hour travelling somewhere.
I'm sorry, but it's no fun when there's no chance of winning
Furthermore, once AGIAN, the mod is not complete, it's still being built, and everything's going to change, and should so it can evolve inot something better... It's SUPPOSED to change, so stop trying to argue for something incomplete and clearly unbalanced to remain the same when the whole ficken point is to get player feedback and make changes. Do't be the ignorant voice supporting the status quo... that sort of sycophant-ism tends to bring on revolution by fed up people
Have you noticed less players on the NS4 servers lately? I have...
There should be a balance because this is a setting where they players are all pitted against eachother
All i think should be done is that mages shouldn't get the same armor as fighters, so they have the physical weakness they're SUPPOSED to have in exchange for great magical power
And you're simply lying if you say they don't have an advantage, I have not been able to defeat a mage that's even a few levels lower than me, and I'm sick of this BS of getting shot down in 5 seconds by some trigger happy mage every time I spend a half hour travelling somewhere.
I'm sorry, but it's no fun when there's no chance of winning
Furthermore, once AGIAN, the mod is not complete, it's still being built, and everything's going to change, and should so it can evolve inot something better... It's SUPPOSED to change, so stop trying to argue for something incomplete and clearly unbalanced to remain the same when the whole ficken point is to get player feedback and make changes. Do't be the ignorant voice supporting the status quo... that sort of sycophant-ism tends to bring on revolution by fed up people
Have you noticed less players on the NS4 servers lately? I have...
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Æ wrote:There goes sheep being pointlessly contradictory again...
There should be a balance because this is a setting where they players are all pitted against eachother
All i think should be done is that mages shouldn't get the same armor as fighters, so they have the physical weakness they're SUPPOSED to have in exchange for great magical power
And you're simply lying if you say they don't have an advantage, I have not been able to defeat a mage that's even a few levels lower than me, and I'm sick of this BS of getting shot down in 5 seconds by some trigger happy mage every time I spend a half hour travelling somewhere.
I'm sorry, but it's no fun when there's no chance of winning
Furthermore, once AGIAN, the mod is not complete, it's still being built, and everything's going to change, and should so it can evolve inot something better... It's SUPPOSED to change, so stop trying to argue for something incomplete and clearly unbalanced to remain the same when the whole ficken point is to get player feedback and make changes. Do't be the ignorant voice supporting the status quo... that sort of sycophant-ism tends to bring on revolution by fed up people
Have you noticed less players on the NS4 servers lately? I have...
Ha ha, you die alot.
Word.
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Keep posting your one-line answers and trying to piss people off, It won't work with me, so you're wasting your time trying to crack a greater will than your own.... and it'll just get you banned from the forums in the long run
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No, it's not working, in fact i'm laughing at what common minded idiots you are and provoking you into showing even more foolishness
I live in new york, where there's a jerk born every minute, and I know people like you well, and know how to deal with them... you can't crack the surface of this man's self-esteem, but you'll keep trying with your limited intellectiaul ability... and failing
But I do SO enjoy shooting down petty little bickering pests such as yourselves, it's alot of fun for me
Now go out and meet someone to bring a little warmth into your lives and maybe you'll actually become caring and sensitive people worthy of the air you breathe
I live in new york, where there's a jerk born every minute, and I know people like you well, and know how to deal with them... you can't crack the surface of this man's self-esteem, but you'll keep trying with your limited intellectiaul ability... and failing
But I do SO enjoy shooting down petty little bickering pests such as yourselves, it's alot of fun for me
Now go out and meet someone to bring a little warmth into your lives and maybe you'll actually become caring and sensitive people worthy of the air you breathe
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Æ wrote:No, it's not working, in fact i'm laughing at what common minded idiots you are and provoking you into showing even more foolishness
I live in new york, where there's a jerk born every minute, and I know people like you well, and know how to deal with them... you can't crack the surface of this man's self-esteem, but you'll keep trying with your limited intellectiaul ability... and failing
But I do SO enjoy shooting down petty little bickering pests such as yourselves, it's alot of fun for me
Now go out and meet someone to bring a little warmth into your lives and maybe you'll actually become caring and sensitive people worth of the air you breathe
RANT RANT RANT RANT......yes it's not working.
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I didn't think such reasonable words would get through to the common moron...
Keep showing your limited awareness of human virtue... it's really quite entertaining... you're so common
Keep showing your limited awareness of human virtue... it's really quite entertaining... you're so common
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