RK Relic Transport

[kingfatzo]

. Just not allowing relics into the tunnels (or portal) would suffice.

well put and problem solved for all.

[Mestophalies]

Man, so many crying over one thing that was added to help one faction because it had the farthest to run then anyone.

Well, you guys have cried enough about relics being raided and taken to RK that I will now raid every time I am on-line. When was the last time you have seen all the relics in RK? I just saw DD bragging about having all the relics constantly but, none of you will say anything about that. You just want it easier for you to raid RK.

"GAME ON!!!! Let the raids begin!!!!"

[Ryddwillow]

Ya just play the game

[Poet]

Man, so many crying over one thing that was added to help one faction because it had the farthest to run then anyone.

Well, you guys have cried enough about relics being raided and taken to RK that I will now raid every time I am on-line. When was the last time you have seen all the relics in RK? I just saw DD bragging about having all the relics constantly but, none of you will say anything about that. You just want it easier for you to raid RK.

"GAME ON!!!! Let the raids begin!!!!"

If you can read, I said nothing about wanting to get there easier, only that RK should not have a portal directly from AO into their Stronghold that allows relic travel. It had nothing to do with being easier to raid RK.
Oh and btw..when we logged on...we took the relics from SL and took the one you had...neither one was easier than the other.

[Mestophalies]

Perhaps you should check back further where someone suggested that all factions be able to use the tunnels. Hence my comment.

As for the relic being raided. No biggy, I will get it back tonight.

[Mestophalies]

if you are in persuit of a RK raider, and he runs through his lazy-tunnel , then he might as well shout HA HA on the shout channel , because now you have no chance of catching him in persuit and you are forced to take the long way down there....and i have timed it -- a conventiaonal hasted character takes about 20 minutes real time round trip from the NS cradel to the RK cradel...... thats no walk in the park.

If you think that the Pech tunnels are the fastest route then you don't know RK or the tunnels. Plainly stated, I have never used the Pech tunnels while running with a Relic.

[kingfatzo]

the actual route a non-rk person takes to get toyour toilet of a city is irrelivant, the fact of the matter has allready been satated and beaten to a bloody pulp...i will say no more of this redundant matter

[Mestophalies]

It's irrelivant because the route I speak of is faster and does not suport your view of this subject. The fact is that a player would use a different route then you know of and yes, it is faster. I make it in just under 11 minutes severly incumbered.

<Bump> It may be the same route. I am just able to run it faster through shere repitition or mayber I'm thinner then he is. Oh well......

[P. Fricebottle]

the actual route a non-rk person takes to get toyour toilet of a city is irrelivant, the fact of the matter has allready been satated and beaten to a bloody pulp...i will say no more of this redundant matter

You weren't there before the tunnels Fatz. You didn't have to suffer running through those tunnels every single time to get back to RK. And with a non-hasted character. It sucks, see Fatz. When yer raidin' RK, its just a one-time thing during relic raids. For someone from RK, its an everytime thing to get back to their home city.

[kingfatzo]

BUMP

i bump this, because it has been a few weeks and still this is an alive "issue" that i feel should be looked into....

1. Relics should only be permitted in areas in which any character of any faction of any race and of any level can access.
Therefore:
2. Relics Should not be permitted in this RK-only shortcut tunnel, just like relics are not permitted in guildhalls, etc....

3. This fast access may not be liked by some, but regardless, if it is going to stay in place, it should not of benifit when it comes to the game of relics, simply because it puts all other factions at an unfair advantage....

4. this is a very simple concept, and is obviously giving one faction an unfair advantage, but still this fast track relic running is occuring .

5. have we forgotton the out of the way factions who still have to walk to cap their relics ? (MA, and especially NC)....

5. keep your sarcastic comments and specific event discussion out of this thread. keep this general, please......i am hoping that the devs will take a serious look into this....

thank you.

[P. Fricebottle]

I expected this all too much.

1 and 2.) Ye really don't git it. There is no Pech Cave area, guildhalls are areas people can't access therefore can't access the relic. You can access the relic on anyside of the PechCaves. This could be your advantage, camp outside of the entrances and stop anyone going in with your Time Stop.

3.) Your just trying to get rid of these entirely aren't you? I agree, we shouldn't have the shortcut for relic raids but in other cases hell yes. Others at an unfair advantage? How do you think RK felt when Earth Genasi, Half-Ogres, etc. got the buffs?

4.) By occuring you mean every few weeks, then yes.

5.) MA has a dragon leading straight to Ave. I raid there all the time, ask Cade. NC has those caves with TC I believe.

5.) This should be number 6

[kingfatzo]

I agree, we shouldn't have the shortcut for relic raids but in other cases hell yes.

- you hit the nail on the head in that sentence right there....that is the point i am advocating.....
- i could personally care less if the shortcut is there, tho it need not be a portal that permits relics...think of it as a ferry if you must since it has no physical "area" to it.
- nevermind the other technicalities about this that or the other thing, subraces,etc, blah blah..
- this is about the relics, and again thank you for being straitfoward.......

[Squikker2001]

NC has those caves with TC I believe.

Last time I tried to use the tunnel with an NC toon, it only let me go from NC to TC. When I tried to use the tunnel to go from TC to NC, it said that a *mysterious force blocks my path* or something like that. Dunno if it is a bug, but if it isn't fixed, then that makes your particular point on the matter moot.

Also, I said this before, but relics should NOT be allowed INTO or be able to be carried THROUGH ANY place or transition that ANY ONE person CANNOT have access to or through because of race, faction, or level.

I have raided RK sevral times, and know what a pain in the arse it is to go through all those tunnels, but just because they have farther to run does not mean they should get a shortcut when it comes to relics. Im all for RK having their tunnel system to facilitate easier movement for them, but that ease of movement should not apply to relics. They are 50.5 pounds for a reason.

[minielvis]

All factions have their advantages and disadvantages when it comes
to relic raiding and relic defending. I will not list them here , but those
who play the relics know what I talking about.

RK has been a beat-down red-headed stepchild since my friends and I
came here.

Let's say that RK was a major player in the "relic game",
and had the numbers that the bandwagon factions have. Then , I could
see a problem. As it is now, I don't see a problem.

RK steals a few relics once in awhile. &O
Just go get them. &]

[P. Fricebottle]

Just wait fer AO to raid our cradle and git tha relics from dem if ye dun wanna run through the tunnels.