alignment change center

Twiggy · Post by **Twiggy** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:47 am

man...boy do i wish i could make a barbarian dd....but i can't cause of the alignment restrictions....could maybe we have that changed...and set limitations to it....like u can't have drastic changes to alignmnet????....like from lawfully good to chaotic evil or soemthing like that??...i heard that in ns3 there was something like that...and maybe u could only use it once per toon.....like only if ur 110 % shure....and maybe u have to lose some lvls and some gold like using a book....that would make it really good....i like that....so would it be at all possible????
twiggy

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:37 am

This isn't going to happen.

For balance purposes.

It's been discussed to death years ago, I highly doubt anything has changed.

I hope nothing has changed.

Post by **Amoenotep** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:09 am

it hasn't changed.

CrazyJ · Post by **CrazyJ** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:15 am

Post by **Flailer** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:19 am

MLoki · Post by **MLoki** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:59 am

Sorry Twiggy, you seem to change Guilds often enough I would hate to see what you could do with alignments. The whole server would probably be lagged out from all of Twiggy's changes and nobody else would ever get to use the Alignment Changer.

BTW with a little help from the "search" button up top you would find the following topics about this subject.

http://www.nsrealm.com/public/ns4/viewt ... ent+change

http://www.nsrealm.com/public/ns4/viewt ... =alignment

http://www.nsrealm.com/public/ns4/viewt ... =alignment

MLoki

kingfatzo · Post by **kingfatzo** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:14 pm

hehehe, well done.

make your mind up b4 you build your toon

Twiggy · Post by **Twiggy** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:22 pm

doh...ok i give up...was worth a try right

...hmmm search button what are those

...and umm did i say crap....and i do plan out my builds.....but hey....sometime things look good on paper not so much in reality

so thnx for all the quick no's to deflate my short lived buble of happiness at thinking this was going to work

twiggy

ok..just read some of the stuff from previous posts...thnx mloki for putting those up there....but what about losing xp and gold when switching said alignment...the amount depends on the type of alignment switched...and ok....i understand the possible cheese builds ..like pally bard....and *looks down depressed* there is prbly no chance in hell that this is going to happen....but what if there was a huge fine for breaking alignment....it has been done on other servers.....so we (we meaning the devs) are ABLE to do it...just do we WANT to do it or is it too much of a hassle to do it....if ur a dev don't talk the *points upwards* thing i said up there personally..
u guys are great the wold is great...just needs some points of improvement...i say 9/10

..*crowd cheers*
twiggy

Post by **Amoenotep** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:42 pm

Blystos Re · Post by **Blystos Re** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:42 pm

Post by **TGPO** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:52 pm

Can we do it .. yes. Will we do it, not a chance.

And as stated before, this has been beaten to death repeatedly. Not being able to change alignments was a very intentional decision and the game play balance has been done with the knowledge that it wont be possible. There are plenty enough cheese builds that are still unfortunatly viable.

kingfatzo · Post by **kingfatzo** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:38 pm

Amoenotep wrote:no

Blystos Re wrote:no

TGPO wrote:Can we do it .. yes. Will we do it, not a chance.

... Re: pWnd

...tho it was a nice try i must say

Lorkar1 · Post by **Lorkar1** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:59 pm

Just curious, but how hard would it be to have alignment shifts due to behavioral actions. I am not talking about insta-change since that is not reflective of life as we all know it. Shifts in "alignments" happen over time and not with answering a line of questions ala 3.5. I understand the problems with cheese builds, but I imagine precautions could be taken to make that less appealing(I am not asking for this to be done mind you). Diametrically opposed shifts would have to have drastic penalties ie:30% xp loss. And classes like the Paladin for example would lose all Paladin abilities just like PnP. As far as changing to LG from any Chaotic would be dramatically harder since it is harder to chart than a descent into evil. Very few have convinced others of their good intentions whether real or played. Whereas the opposite is true with evil since most actions are self-evident. Anyways I was curious and decided to ask.

MLoki · Post by **MLoki** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:30 pm

Actually they do have something like that in NS 3.5 and it kindof sucks. Especially when you are with a party when they decide to kill of Dracho if you are either a Blackguard or Assassin. You get an alignment shift towards good even if you aren't in the same area as them and often times aren't even sure why. If you shift towards good and aren't Evil anymore then you can't level again until you regain your evil status which meant killing alot of innocent elves or visiting the Cave of Judgement. I don't see any of this as being needed on this server. I believe I even suggested something like this once upon a time in one of the links above to keep the paladin cheese in check.

MLoki