allied faction relic bonus...

algol333 · Post by **algol333** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:03 pm

umm im sure this has been discussed b4... but what if allied factions both got relic bonuses if one faction has more relics then the other etc...

with MA and SL being allies it seems that they r both constantly raiding each other... i know it has been said that there r no allies when it comes to raiding but i think this slightly defeats the purpose of allies..

just an idea...

Nemesis Revised · Post by **Nemesis Revised** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:39 pm

with today's update. Tekkanomika can now bind at our barracks and raid Menzoduran all we want

has this been foreseen? just wondering. what if a Tekk steals a relic from menzo takes it to MA. then a buddy of his kills him again... so he returns to the rift shard in menzo, steals a relic again, and the cycle continues. [can you bind to a hostile allies' shard?]

it might be a good idea to actually make allies share bonus. since you can bind now at your allies' shard, we should assume you can help your allies defend during raids and at the same time benefit from the bonus.

algol333 · Post by **algol333** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:56 pm

thats a great idea nem ill have to try it out....

Post by **Flailer** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:57 pm

If you're hostile to your ally, you *shouldn't* be able to bind there. Is that not the case?

Death Dealer1 · Post by **Death Dealer1** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:26 pm

i suspect we need some testing.

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:24 pm

I thought the Devs said this wasn't going to hapens, since there are no allies when it comes to relics.

kingfatzo · Post by **kingfatzo** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:04 pm

i concur --- and what about factions who do not have allies ?

http://www.nsrealm.com/ns4wiki/index.php/Last_Alliance

MLoki · Post by **MLoki** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:38 pm

It was discussed and I believe it was dropped because there was not a good solution to NS not having allies.

This first post is most relevant to the ally relic bonus topic;

http://www.nsrealm.com/public/ns4/viewtopic.php?t=3628

Other posts and ideas on relics;

http://www.nsrealm.com/public/ns4/viewtopic.php?t=4214

http://www.nsrealm.com/public/ns4/viewtopic.php?t=4103

http://www.nsrealm.com/public/ns4/viewtopic.php?t=3621

MLoki

CrazyJ · Post by **CrazyJ** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:00 pm

I'd like to see a 5% bonus just for having your own relic. There are only a couple of other people in TC able to raid for relics... raiding for our own relic, and another, and a third, can take almost an hour even if there's no opposition... I don't normally have that long to enjoy the fruits of the raiding, and it's of course gone when I return the next evening. Having a reason aside from just pride to raid for our own relic would be nice.

algol333 · Post by **algol333** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:01 pm

i guess search is my friend thx for the links Mloki.

Lorkar1 · Post by **Lorkar1** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:27 pm

Looking at the post MLoki referred to I had an idea(maybe not a good one but one nevertheless). How about assigning XP values to the raiders and when they are killed you would receive XP for defending your relic. Or maybe the other way around..getting XP for defeating a PC defending their relic. XP could assigned based on level. That might encourage more raiding in groups instead of the lone PM, monk or mage. Just my 4 cents this time...

Death Dealer1 · Post by **Death Dealer1** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:40 am

you get xp for killing ppl in your faction town. if you have a low lvl toon and kill someone of much higher lvl you get an enourmous amount of xp....the problem lies in killing them though.

Celorn · Post by **Celorn** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:58 am

Heh.. the relics are becoming quite a big waste of time as of late... so much cheese!!

Death Dealer1 wrote:you get xp for killing ppl in your faction town. if you have a low lvl toon and kill someone of much higher lvl you get an enourmous amount of xp....the problem lies in killing them though.

HEH.. I must have racked thousands of XP pre-wipe by defending the LA relic constantly killing higher lvl toons -- the one thing that's strange is you don't get a relic bonus for PK's when you're defending!

One thing that could help a bit in the ally stealing relics would be to immediately set the cradle-grabbing/relic-stealing aly as an enemy to the allied faction, and no way to ever get that back. (or turn them to stone hehe)

Death Dealer1 · Post by **Death Dealer1** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:10 pm

if i remember from pre wipe zing made it so that stealing an allied factions relic turned you hostile. if you don't mind being hostile in that city then i say nab away.

Falazure- · Post by **Falazure-** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:20 pm

why not give neversummer a better bonus then the rest if they aquire the relics,and have allies share a bonus,but not max bonus.