Creating new char.....

camoranesi16 · Post by **camoranesi16** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:37 pm

After playing a couple of hours this is my overview of this server...

Pale Masters are unbeatable!!!
There is no point in playing a Wizard... They are to weak..
Clerics are The strongest after PM..

And so I wonder... If the PM is so superior.. why do people choose the other factions??
I want to play Wiz but not waisting my time building a 40 lvl char for nothing...
So... What to build??? is there a point in building anything else than a PM??

Every PM ive spoken to say they have taken down 6-8 players alone...

Not very funny.... is the balance really that bad??

I love building Wizards... but here they are useless... what to build?

PeregrineV · Post by **PeregrineV** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:47 pm

Sure, build a paladin.

Pale Masters are evil and smelly, with a half-rotted arm and all. And it's hard to find a living girlfriend when your all into dead things.

Post by **Sparky** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:53 pm

Wizards are far from useless here. Far far far from useless.

Also, not everyone cares about making the best uber unstoppable build on this server, so they make builds that amuse them and keep their attention.

PM's are indeed powerful, but most PM builds I have seen tend to be on the low side of damage output.

camoranesi16 · Post by **camoranesi16** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:54 pm

paladin??
Ive never played one... they are most for buffing others??

and what does girlfrind have to do with a important matter like this??

Post by **Binkyuk** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:55 pm

Admittedly my PM build only got to level 20 before the wipe, but here's my 2 pence.
As a class Pale Masters have uber awesome defence but relatively poor offense. You might expect a PM to be able to withstand the beating of 4+ players of the same level, but will have problems killing them in return with their own abilities. PMs have an uber summon, but Dismiss should take care of that (or Control Undead? now *that* would be hilarious, but i believe a dominate or similar on a summon automatically dismisses).

Wizards are a little underpowered at level 30+, but that could be fixed relatively soon, if you stay pure classed at least. Meanwhile your wiz/sorc will be nice and effective for a good long while.

Clerics are good, but no longer the uber class they were 4-6 weeks ago. The people telling you clerics still rock everyone else are probably the ones that still cast Bless, Aid and Unholy Aura after every rest. *snicker*

MasterYoda · Post by **MasterYoda** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:25 pm

also people build different types of chars because of guild or faction preferences.

every faction has real good builds and even those who don't have crazy uber builds have guilds to usually back them up.

there are tons of things u can try or build. and with this being a storyline based server u ususally can find people to help u kill someone weather it is a ally to u or enemy to them.

try some of these ...

rdd/barb/bard

druid/shifter/monk

rouge/barb/dd

these aren't uber builds but made correctly u can and will stand a chance against other builds.

even bg has a nice summon and gives u room for other stuff as well

Death Dealer1 · Post by **Death Dealer1** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:05 pm

high lvl summons of any class usually don't get dismissed. the master lich and above for PM don't go anywhere when dismissed. in fact it angers the accomplice more than anything.

camoranesi16 · Post by **camoranesi16** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:10 pm

MasterYoda wrote: there are tons of things u can try or build. and with this being a storyline based server u ususally can find people to help u kill someone weather it is a ally to u or enemy to them.

by the way... what happens after you reach 40 lvls???

Kromix · Post by **Kromix** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:36 pm

lol wizards are useless

i should know ;O

beware... the useless wizzy is coming... XD

MasterYoda · Post by **MasterYoda** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:45 pm

camoranesi16 wrote:
MasterYoda wrote: there are tons of things u can try or build. and with this being a storyline based server u ususally can find people to help u kill someone weather it is a ally to u or enemy to them.

by the way... what happens after you reach 40 lvls???

kill everyone....

grab relics .....

there are lots of reasons

CrazyJ · Post by **CrazyJ** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:02 pm

druid/shifter/monk

Doesn't allow Epic shifting feats.

Post by **Yonwe** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:15 pm

Quote:
druid/shifter/monk

Doesn't allow Epic shifting feats.

True, but you can still use the improved Humanoid shapes unlimitedly at 17th Shifter while being a Monk as well... and as long as you can live without Dragonshape, Monk AC and skills fill up the holes in monoclass Shifters beautifully. Hence the Devs looking like a laughing quaker when we took the epic shapes out of their grasp...

HA!

HA!

CrazyJ · Post by **CrazyJ** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:04 pm

Yeah, but Undead shape is the most useful after Dragonshape.... sweet vengeance on all scythers!

Most of the shapes need a boost in STR since STR gear doesn't merge here (all gloves) like it can in the OCs. Damage for all shapes that don't merge weapons also needs fixing due to NS having weapons that generally do double or more the damage of standard weapons.

camoranesi16 · Post by **camoranesi16** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:31 pm

Are there any Good Fighter Builds than??

On this server or on any normal server....

With fighter I mean where they actually contain FIGHTER lvls and not a:
2F 99999 PM 99999 MONK

Kromix · Post by **Kromix** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:15 pm

try and have a go... lvling isnt hard here... especially a ftr...

now, this server is not meant to be soloed, if that's what u r looking 4 a mage is useless trying to solo lvl 30ish+ same as a ftr and almost any class... or mix...

now if u r looking for a pvp build, pure class will not cut it unless you are a caster type. even then its still hard if not built right.

pick a class or pick a build, get it to lvl 25+ then revamp it 3 times trying to sort out weaknesses... is the best way to go... i have built way over 20 mages in this server alone over time trying to find the best combination possible for my playstyle... find yours... ask yourself what do you like most, then have a field trip...