Drop System Observations since the wipe....

Gumppy · Post by **Gumppy** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:06 pm

ok in answer i was mostly solo, in fact i did the sanctum all alone no party whatsoever, for sunken i did some alone and some in a party with 1 other person who was in very close, perhaps we were just unlucky.

As i said no biggy just telling devs etc what i found where, i have only done about 48 lvls worth of toons tho Hope this helps

IcemanXV · Post by **IcemanXV** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:46 am

I agree with basically what the devs have seen. Too many relics, not enough monster-specific items.

Level 16 Pally - 1 book (of int), 1 mummy heavy flail, and the fire [censored] sword.

5 kills of gustav = Zero (0) hammers, 1 set of armor, 1 helmet, 1 shield.
Multiple (25+) gustav guards = 1 set of armor.
4 Kills of bralk = 1 halberd.

Also, basic imbued is pretty rare, and I consistently kill CR 18+ mobs, have since level 13.

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:55 pm

Well, I haven't gotten back to the upper teens yet (haven't had a lot of time to play since the wipe, and I've been having Internet problems as well), but I certainly agree that artifacts should be rarer than the normal drops. One of the reasons I will kill things in out of the way areas with less effective xp is because I'm trying to get a drop. I don't like spending several days worth of gameplay just to find an item.

Gumppy · Post by **Gumppy** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:17 pm

couldnt agree more elag, just had a short discussion with the FAT in game and from what he says he has like 80 + lvls of toons and has found no boots ??? 2 of em are above 30 - thats rediculous really.

I know the devs are tweeking still and most are really busy with out of game commitments and i for one appreciate all the work. But those boots and amazon axe need there rate of drop raised a lot, because who wants to spend days at a time smashing amazons to get 1 axe ?

In the end it shouldnt drop every time but i mean really you shouldnt have to spend hours on it neither - it leads to paranoia and dellusions

LOL i CAN see the thing in her hand :_) surely its there ..... but wasnt she just dismembering me with it a second ago.......or is someone Ninja looting me ??? LMAO

Sightbringer · Post by **Sightbringer** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:03 pm

$chase$ wrote:i would like to see drops turned down. so theres less

Yes, let's make NS just like Diablo II! That way we can all play for hours on end for no purpose but finding items. When we do finally find them, we can all sell them on ebay!

Myrdyr · Post by **Myrdyr** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:16 am

Maybe I'm just really unlucky, or maybe some people posting are really lucky, or both... I've got a lvl 23 and lvl 3. I found 1 coffer and 0 mithril boots until I started going to where other players had found theirs. I've found no books, no belt better than imbued belt of health, and I've been pretty unlucky with boss drops.

That said, I dont have a problem with the drop system. There was a lot of adjustments before the wipe and at least one since. All in all, it's a vast improvement.

PeregrineV · Post by **PeregrineV** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:50 am

The only thing I've noticed, and it may not even be true, but only me perception:

The less visited a place is, the "more" monsters and the "larger" the drops. If I hang aoutside a zone and wait for it to respawn, then go back in, monsters are usually less and drops way less.

Does an area "build-up" drop percentage the longer it is unvisited?

Post by **Flailer** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:54 am

Nope - time doesn't effect percentage drops. If you wait longer, an area will generate up to it's max spawn rate again, so statistically, you'll get more drops though.

Drop rates also have nothing to do with party size. Dropped items are generated when the creature is spawned when the first person enters the map.

IcemanXV · Post by **IcemanXV** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:46 pm

I noticed I would get some of the artifacts before they dropped too. I was fighting a chunker and he was using the mummy flail. I also was fighting a gnoll bodyguard and he was using teflom. Pretty cool indicator.

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:16 pm

All I've ever gotton like that was O'Lem whacking me with an Oak staff....

Post by **DeputyDog** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:02 am

Mobs love to use wierd items they spawn with. Its like goblins throwing an acid flask at you because it spawned on them.

Just hope they arnt using the books to get more stats lol.

ihuntudown · Post by **ihuntudown** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:48 pm

remains are past throu the npcs/creatures aswell. Ex. Grizzly killed ogre, i killed grizzly; Grizzly drops : Ogre [censored] sword,pots....

That's nice to :=) let one clear the area and kill it for getting all the remains