Maybe unpopular but...

Post by **Flailer** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:28 am

There is another armor that is padded...

And, I thought I was wrong, but I was right!

Donan · Post by **Donan** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:52 am

The padded one is from garagoth, imbued mystral leather i believe, offers a max 8 dex bonus and offers a +7 hide..

Hey who hijacked my thread? I still think by certain lvl say 25 or 30 you should have to have a minn levels in each class you plan on taking

-Chronepsis- · Post by **-Chronepsis-** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:18 pm

Thats why i stated to make hide to quests instead of items,because if it is on items you will just make a ranger sd almost impossible to spot unless your a pure wis druid,dragon,cleric,and a bard.so if you did make it on a quest,maybe from sl or garagoth,id hope sl,because i think assassins deserve extra hide,they only get one chance as it is.this way rangers cant get extra bonuses,but other sneak characters can.

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:06 pm

sneakers are worthless waste of time, no one cares

Girl · Post by **Girl** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:59 pm

^ whateva.

Donan · Post by **Donan** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:39 pm

JesterOI wrote:sneakers are worthless waste of time, no one cares

Well your worthless and we still have to deal with you

Marah Telexus · Post by **Marah Telexus** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:45 pm

I have found 2 armors:

Enchanted Drow Leather - gives +5hide/ms but only 4dex mod and -1ACP

Enchanted Mystral Leather - gives +5hide, 8dex mod and NO ACP

I will keep looking for +7 hide armor, but I think people are thinking of the +5 hide armor I just stated.

-Chronepsis- · Post by **-Chronepsis-** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:57 pm

Theres a plus 7 light armor in garagoth,its an imbued mytral leather armor.i have 1 muled personally.

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:34 pm

Donan wrote:
JesterOI wrote:sneakers are worthless waste of time, no one cares
Well your worthless and we still have to deal with you

OMG you did not just say that!!!

Post by **TheBestDeception** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:19 pm

Let's try this again:

Donan wrote:Not sure how everyone would react to this but I think its good.

For people that multiclass I think it should be required you take more then 1 lvl of a second class. say you want to make your wiz/rogue (how many of those around) by lvl 20 you have to have at least 3 lvls of rogue. I have done the take 1 lvl to maximize spot and even though i am guilty also it is pretty cheesy. You want that dragon form with monk lvls then you need to take the 3 by 20 which wll delay your form but i think thats the way it should be, even the rdd or AA.

I made a few of the ones listed above with just 1 lvl of something and it occured to me last night when i played my rogue. I took epic hiding, etc all the stuff to increase hide and can still be seen by most who invest 1 lvl in something that gives spot and uses or casts true seeing. Getting a drow rogue to 26 isnt easy and its a bummer that almost anyone can sacrifice a single lvl and basically nullify my only weapon of sneaking (and the build is maximized for hiding)

So just a thought in general i was hoping to get others response and some ideas how to take this basic idea and improve it.

like i said i am guilty of doing and do not even know if is possible to force people to make a char this way.

well was just a thought....

Advantages: Cuts down on cheese
Disadvantages: Wipe

Donan · Post by **Donan** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:25 pm

wipe? yay lets do it and no cheese

Post by **TheBestDeception** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:29 pm

However, maximized dragonshapes (up to lvl 40, not in a rush to gain 30 WIS) typically have between 6-9 monk levels, anyways, so don't expect this to be a big detriment to that. This would effectively prevent the ShadowDragon, though.

trent · Post by **trent** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:42 pm

I'm all for a wipe as well

Holghask · Post by **Holghask** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:57 pm

ouch...wipe?

...not sure if i favor that...especially since I've tried hard to be the first legit 40th lev char(unless I am mistaken)...am at 37th now...

Marah Telexus · Post by **Marah Telexus** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:55 pm

Hmmm...is it really legit when DM's give you later lvls?? Oh, you mean not bought lvl 40 character

Wipe away the cheese!