A Time of Ages of being humble

Post by **Flailer** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:20 am

Ow - I seriously have a headache after reading that.

Eva · Post by **Eva** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:22 am

Blacky welcome to the dungeon ethereal x server

trent · Post by **trent** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:19 am

Well sorry Willow but i have no idea what point you were trying to get across and to tell you the truth i couldn't understand most of your second lengthy post. I think that you are leaving the mod because your days of "That dirty **** just killed my char so i'm going to gather up all my buds and get my best char to pk and camp him for 2 hrs" is over.

You play the mod with a Arena type mentality and its not an arena type mod.
Maybe if you spent more time trying to rp the mod the way it was made to play then you would have had a better experience.

You guys and I'm talking about Mental , Willow , Bill , Eva , and Hellrasier all need to sit down and rethink your game play style and if it fits in here or not. I for one enjoy faction war and the fact I can RP my faction but when you guys are playing you make that very hard to do due to the fact you all act like 13 yr old kids on a power trip.

Sure it was fun back in the day when rampant pking was at its peak with okies and slaves but what you guys do takes it too far and I think the DM's have seen that. They don't play favorites and hell i don't think they like me much either but you guys have been told on countless occasions to pk and move on , Don't harrass people , Try to be nice to noobs , and just be a courteous person but in my eye's you guys have failed at all those things.

My advice to you is ...... Grow up

Mental · Post by **Mental** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:44 am

You listen here arty. We were attacking NS just as well as u were defending it. So if you didnt want to die, just stay away and dont attack us becuase you were defeated. I know the rule is that you are allowed to defend NS, but you are the one complaining be cause you lost, and i feel i keep repeating myself all the time, but we were attacking NS so you got to forums and type your s*** or complain to DM's. Also you always turn the story around, so stop blaming other ppl all the time and take some of the blame youself. Have a nice day!!

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:53 am

Wen-Kai wrote:In fact, it's because of people like you that the L25 cap was made in the first place, and IMHO, that was the death blow to NS4 pop.

Actually the lvl 25 cap was in place because it was possible to level to 40 by killing nothing but rats. The leve cap was removed when the xp cap was put in place.

Post by **TheBestDeception** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:58 am

Actually, it was put in place because of the boredom of lvl 40 players who did nothing but PK lowbies with no chance to fight back.

Even with the level 25 cap on, the minimum XP bug was quicker to use to level to 25 (starting at around 23 or so) than guards were.

Pros wrote:The reason for this is that the mod does not have the areas to accommodate those upper level characters that have a tendency to get 'bored'

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:54 pm

TheBestDeception wrote:Actually, it was put in place because of the boredom of lvl 40 players who did nothing but PK lowbies with no chance to fight back.

Even with the level 25 cap on, the minimum XP bug was quicker to use to level to 25 (starting at around 23 or so) than guards were.

Pros wrote:The reason for this is that the mod does not have the areas to accommodate those upper level characters that have a tendency to get 'bored'

Bet that felt good!

Wen-Kai · Post by **Wen-Kai** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 2:36 pm

(lol I just realized how that winky smiley looks like my dorf avatar)

El Smokey Bearo · Post by **El Smokey Bearo** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:45 pm

I guess I'll add my cent and a half.

I picked up 2 things today that fit this whole thing (hopefully):

*One was while my sister and I were watching NASCAR and 2 drivers basically had a fight "on-track." The announcer side basically that there are 3 sides to every arguement, his side, your side and the real side.

*Then later tonight I was watching Bill Cosby's "Himself" and he said "parents don't want justice, they just want quiet." This one might not so much apply here but is funny anyways.

I guess the best advice I can think of is everybody should get up, step away from their computers, take a deep breath, calm down, remember its just a game, and to move on with their lives.

Also, as far as I can tell from postings there are only a few devs and a handful of DM's trying their best to do their jobs here on NS4 and still have a real life and have fun.

Someone is probably gonna say I don't know what they heck I'm talking about but whatever.

Hopefully someone might atleast get a little chuckle out of my short ramble.

Throst54 · Post by **Throst54** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:50 am

NS4 was a good idea...

but realistically... maybe the devs should just put thier efforts to NS3.5.....

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:13 am

My cat's name is Winston!!!

isaac.anthony · Post by **isaac.anthony** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:17 pm

WOW.

i just read the rant from rydd, i can't believe that i could actually finish it. i'm not sure that i can even comprehend half of what was said, but....

from what i gather, you're pissed because you think someone else was picking on you, and they didn't get booted too. well, i've been hanging out with that "someone else" for a bit now. every time he does something that i don't agree with, he has a roleplaying reason to do it.

i have seen YOU on the other hand kill people indescriminately, with no pretense of roleplaying involved. if you want that kind of game, move your self to a ARENA style game, and *BOOM* problem solved.

it's just that easy.

get it?

NibNib · Post by **NibNib** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:49 pm

*twitch*

Billiard · Post by **Billiard** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:48 pm

Throst54 wrote:NS4 was a good idea...

but realistically... maybe the devs should just put thier efforts to NS3.5.....

I think NS4 is still a good idea. The main problem is that the dev team got hamstrung due to some real life issues and it's taken this long to recover even just a little. NS3.5 is easy to mod compared to NS4 because NS4 is designed to run faster and be more efficient - allowing for a much bigger world with many more things in it. But because of those differences even veteran NS3.5 and NWN developers can't just step in and work on NS4. It literally takes months of dedicated learning. So though many people offer to help, few really truly have the skills or time to do it.

Now I'll be the first to admit that me (and my old guild) left long ago because of the lack of apparent updates to the mod. But that was never due to the DMs or the Devs not caring or not trying. You think its easy to work on this mod? You think the Devs like to see multiple years worth of time and effort go for naught? Imagine you made 5 or 6 level 40 characters here - then multiple that effort by ten fold or more. That is what it has taken to get this mod even this far. Even now people are working hard on trying to get things back on track - but man it has to be disheartening to read post after post bashing them, their efforts, and their motives.

Everything that happens in game now is just putting out brush fires - and it takes away from getting real work done. Yeah its a faction based PvP mod. But if the DMs, many of who are also trying to develop now, could be freed from having to do that constant firefighting I guarantee that it would help things go faster. Maybe they should just shut down PvP for now til the mod is further along? Nah that would ruin things too much for folks now and all the new people would really be messed up later. But if people quit doing stuff that was griefing/harassing, or even just bordered on that - maybe that would help. I mean the DMs and Devs work on their own time trying to make the mod better for the community - maybe the community could make a concerted effort to make it easier for them to do their jobs . . .