Haste....but different

ATI · Post by **ATI** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 3:37 am

Okay..since it seems limited use haste items won't happen either due to some incesant fervor and dedication to a hatred of haste items...how about this one..

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!! make haste cast spells as fast as it normally does on NWN. Haste in normal NWN makes a caster cast spells continuously...as it is now, there is no benefit to casting haste and then additional spells...which means you get zero trade-off there. While you do get a speed bonus and an extra partial action, could we also get the speed of casting? It would reduce the 1 minute and 45 seconds I spend making sure I'm ready for battle down to 20 seconds...which added over one gaming session is 15 minutes of playing time I coudl regain...it also means my fellow casters can also cast their spells faster while also running faster.

Please...can we revisit this one on the drawing boards....if you won't give us some form of haste item, at least we could get faster spell casting with haste.

DrakhanValane · Post by **DrakhanValane** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 3:59 am

Well, considering the main reason behind changing haste was to slow down casting...

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:33 am

Say hello to Mr. Auto-Quicken. He doesn't want to hurt you... he just wants to have some fun.

ATI · Post by **ATI** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:01 pm

I'd love auto quicken...if only I could get high enough in epic levels though.... hehehehe

And really? haste was modified for that sole reason? I'm guessing the reason why this came to be was because of casters ability to cast offense spells faster in a battle leading to abuse....

Doesn't seem like the extra time changed much either than making it slower for tactical spells to be cast. Whats the reason behind the haste mod with this regard?

-BannyD- · Post by **-BannyD-** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 2:12 pm

how about instead of adding haste to items, just increase the run speed of the game?

ive seen this done on the Ancient Rage server. everyone just runs faster than normal. there it helps for the pvp aspect, here it would help stop the complaints that people are running too slow and it takes to long to get to places.

if this doesnt work, make a monk in the LA faction with master messenger speed and blow through maps in seconds

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 2:20 pm

That would be an idea to set the base speed of everything to 150%.
Don't forget:
Increased running speed = Increased xp income
However my favourite feature of increased running speed is just plain less down time while playing.
More action = more fun.

ATI · Post by **ATI** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 3:47 am

Game speed faster, or not...I don't care, I just wish the game went faster...i don't care about xping faster or whatever...what is tedious is moving from A to Z and having to do it every time I need item X. It takes forever to go from NC to Avendell, and thats with haste.

Even with haste, it also takes nearly a minute to get all my spells in order to fight. I have to prep about 5 times before resting to get them all back, and on average I end up using my spell list 20 times per time a play, which means 20 minutes i've lost simply getting ready to fight.

Is there any way to customize the spells so that only defense spells cast faster when hasted? I figure that offensive spells are mainly what the devs are worried about when it comes to abuse....so defense...techinically should be out of the worry list.

-BannyD- · Post by **-BannyD-** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 9:31 pm

ATI wrote:which means 20 minutes i've lost simply getting ready to fight.

i have a solution to that....play a challenging melee class not an overpowered cleric for once

ATI · Post by **ATI** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:29 am

Simple boy, I already have 5 other characters, all in the high teens lvl. I play them, but my haste problems aren't solved. The main problem, which you so happily neglected to respond to, is that it takes forever to go ANYWHERE in NS4. Its even worse for non casters that have next to 0 access to haste. They have to rely on someone being nice enough to cast it on them, or just are plain out of look and they take FOREVER to get from A to Z.

Oh and clerics are still tough to play, it's just that I spent lots of time researching how to make a good build for my cleric on this server, making things easier for me.