Svirfneblin bugs?

katalizer · Post by **katalizer** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 6:12 am

my deep gnome cannot see anything during the night.... quite less than my humans chars... is it a bug, or did i missed smthg... 2nd prob is that doc precise that Deep gnomes have -2 Str, and when i played malus was applied to constit...

Knightwing4 · Post by **Knightwing4** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:21 pm

gnomes naturally have +2 cons, thus if your char says something like +2 int -2 dex, as a gnome, that means that your +2 cons must be cancelled out somehow, and to do that they apply a -2 to cancel out the +2 cons, thus it looks like they took -2 off your cons, because they did, because your subrace doesn't get the cons bonus that gnomes naturally get.

katalizer · Post by **katalizer** » Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:18 am

ok, so what is that -2 STR????

Post by **TGPO** » Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:45 am

Deep Gnome

Also known as Svirfneblin, the Deep Gnomes of the Realms are a secretive, mysterious race. Found in the deepest caverns of the Underdark, the Svirfneblin live in constant fear of slavery or destruction at the hands or Dark Elves, mind flayers, and Duergar. Deep Gnomes are legendary for their ability to handle stone and gems. They have gray skin and gray or white hair.

Favored Class: Wizard
+2 Dexterity, +2 Wisdom, -2 Strength, -4 Charisma
+2 to all saving throws
+2 Hide, +2 Search
Spell Resistance of 10, +4 every 4 levels
Darkvision
+4 AC
Blur 1/day as cast by a Wizard of their character level
Level Adjustment +3

Easily found in the documentation section under playable races.

katalizer · Post by **katalizer** » Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:52 am

damn, not str, i meant constit malus... er... lemme think...

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Er... yep, constit appears in red... and is 2 pts less than what i chose when i created char... but str didnt change... should be the contrary, shouldn't it?

Denort · Post by **Denort** » Sat Jul 10, 2004 11:17 am

Think of it as taking subrace after race, because you are. Race abilities are handled by NWN itself but subrace abilities are custom and must be applied magically.

So in your case you chose gnome as your race and NWN took care of your +2 Constitution and -2 Strength. You then chose Smurfneblin (they should all be forced to have blue skin) which has +2 Dexterity, +2 Wisdom, -2 Strength, -4 Charisma. These bonuses are instead of standard gnome so you keep the -2 str but the magic (ns4 custom) bonuses must remove your gnomish +2 con since smurfs dont get it. The magic bonuses should also give you -4 cha as well as +2 dex and +2 wis.

On your score sheet you str should look normal, con and cha should be penalised while dex and wis should have a bonus.

Throst54 · Post by **Throst54** » Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:00 pm

uhm, actually tehre are quite a few servers that change the actaul stats when u log in and dont use the green/red as u refer to them...

DrakhanValane · Post by **DrakhanValane** » Sat Jul 10, 2004 3:23 pm

Hey Throst, do those servers happen to use Haks or Overrides? NS doesn't.

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Sat Jul 10, 2004 3:26 pm

I think those server could also be using DM's... Too bad ours are busy with other things

YelloweFriday · Post by **YelloweFriday** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:05 am

No those servers aren't using haks, try Shadows Aantioch for example.

http://aantioch.benched.net/forums/