Defending relics with non-allied toons

[::MADD::Arch]

When raiding RK today (and in the past) KOS-MOS logged in after the cradle was tapped to try to defend. This character, I believe, is a COT. Since the only faction with COTs is NC, and since NC is not allied with RK, KOS-MOS would need to be called a traitor at best. My understanding of the god's and the powers they bestow would necessitate that this char be stripped of all COT powers.

Either way, factions and alliances were set up for a reason; to help achieve balance. This is a blatant circumventing of the rules and it is hoped that the DMs look into the matter and take any necessary action.

[TheEdge]

The act of defending with a toon made in a different faction has never been againsed the rules. There are game mesures in place that hinder this action from being overly effective. I.E. loosing faction.

If a said "GOD" of each faction however wants to punish the character in RP form (curse and such) that is up to the GOD however interfering directly in the game of Relic warfare has been something we stay out of as a general rule.

[::MADD::Arch]

If the only repercussion is loss of faction, and that toons sole purpose is to defend and circumvent the balance issues, then is it a true penalty? Or can I create a Gith Monk to use to defend/raid on behalf of MA simply by choosing a faction that allows that build? Seems like this will only lead to issues down the road if it is allowed to go without anything other than loss of faction

[Daral0085]

By no means is this the first instance of cross-faction defending or raiding, nor shall it be the last. And in other news, PKing people in your own faction has absolutely zero impact on factional status. So no, that toon will not be losing faction.

I've fought against cots in melencia that killed a bunch of defenders and still didn't lose faction (not entirely sure how that one worked).

[Amoenotep]

it only becomes a rule problem when he relogs from an rk toon to the nc toon...then we can ban him

other than that i suggest making him a target

[Alkapwn]

well he does that everynight lol. It was hillarious last night he was defending RK with his CoT after raiding with his RK sd/monk, He ended up killing 1/2 the relic room mob for my sd before he switched again hehe. Don't ban him though I need people to kill

[Rufio]

you can't lose faction by defending with a non-allied toon. There are no repercussions for it. You can only lose faction by attacking your faction or allied faction cradle, which is easy enough to just not do.

[Ogami]

For what I recall, kosmos couldn't spot your sd (vermin), sat in a building and went afk. Three rk clerics killed you. No lies please.

[MtainEer]

This is so funny, I love it.

First, because of Iggy I have 2 toons that lost their faction with rk (one from ao and one from rk). If you kill someone from that faction in the relic room...well, I'll tell you....you absolutely lose the alignment but only from that particular city.

Second, because of the way things are now with pms bein immune to stun, crits and sneaks and ma/sl almost always having healing clerics around...u better get used to the NC toons fighting either for RK/AO or for NC/TC.

You should have took my advice on the whole cd key lock on factions but as soon as I get my books...I'll have me a CoT too

Peace,

MtainEer

[Bargeld]

It just makes me think of past forum threads and conversations where it's been said something like:

If it was THAT overpowered, then everyone would do it...

[Alkapwn]

For what I recall, kosmos couldn't spot your sd (vermin), sat in a building and went afk. Three rk clerics killed you. No lies please.

Lies? The clerics showed up after Kosmos couldnt get rid of my mouse. What's the lie? lol

[Amoenotep]

Second, because of the way things are now with pms bein immune to stun, crits and sneaks and ma/sl almost always having healing clerics around...u better get used to the NC toons fighting either for RK/AO or for NC/TC.
MtainEer

uhh...wouldn't NC toons fight for NC/TC anyway?

[Eldaquen]

NC CoT's and TC shifter builds have been built by other faction players that have been used against TC (to raid TC or defend against TC in rival factions).

There was a ruling on this some where in the forums. I do not remember where, but do remember that the ruling said something along the lines if a person wishes to go rogue they are allowed. Not that I agree just recall what was determined by DM's.

If someone could find and add a link in this thread, might be helpful.

One of these days I'll get around to making a 9 cleric/1 sorc/30RDD dragon with divine shield and might to raid for TC.....NOT really

[Rufio]

People just want what they don't have. It is like my significant other. She didn't get any french fries at the restaurant because she wanted the linguine, but when she sees the ones that came with my burger, she all of a sudden wants them, so she eats half of mine and fills herself up while barely touching her pasta.

See you guys, you sound like women! (no offense to the women of ns4, I'm just joking.)

[DM Ireheart]

People just want what they don't have. It is like my significant other. She didn't get any french fries at the restaurant because she wanted the linguine, but when she sees the ones that came with my burger, she all of a sudden wants them, so she eats half of mine and fills herself up while barely touching her pasta.

See you guys, you sound like women! (no offense to the women of ns4, I'm just joking.)