Factional 3 way (avoiding lockdown)
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All those 2 casters need to do, is cast 2 HBs. Quite handy that spell, isn't it?
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Re: Factional 3 way (avoiding lockdown)
There's a ton of posts here and all anyone had to say was this:
There are advantages and disadvantages to mulitboxing. The fact that many do it should demonstrate that the advantages USUALLY outweigh the disadvantages.
Yes there are cases where it behooves you to only pay attention to one character, ie you're the party support toon and everyone is depending on you to keep them alive and kicking, or you're a mage and your own life depends on your situational awareness.
I've killed triboxed toons with just one of mine before, but usually circumstances favored me, ie I was in the defense and they were in the middle of pulling relics and unbuffed, or they all had glaring vulnerabilities that my character could exploit (Hellball + Bigsby ftw!). Either way, such instances are the exception not the norm.
UGH! look I fell into the trap of trying to explain, I should have just left it at
There are advantages and disadvantages to mulitboxing. The fact that many do it should demonstrate that the advantages USUALLY outweigh the disadvantages.
Yes there are cases where it behooves you to only pay attention to one character, ie you're the party support toon and everyone is depending on you to keep them alive and kicking, or you're a mage and your own life depends on your situational awareness.
I've killed triboxed toons with just one of mine before, but usually circumstances favored me, ie I was in the defense and they were in the middle of pulling relics and unbuffed, or they all had glaring vulnerabilities that my character could exploit (Hellball + Bigsby ftw!). Either way, such instances are the exception not the norm.
UGH! look I fell into the trap of trying to explain, I should have just left it at
The fact that many do it should demonstrate that the advantages USUALLY outweigh the disadvantages.
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Re: Factional 3 way (avoiding lockdown)
Always, Crazy, always. Cleric + Bard buffs, or a cleric that hellballs once, or any pure class with their level 34s. Or any caster with dispel. Etc.
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I think the whole multi-boxing thing boils down to the fact that people who multi-box two of three toons have a greater impact on play than a guy who is just playing a lone toon. My personal belief is that NS4 should be one person one toon.
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Re: Factional 3 way (avoiding lockdown)
Would love to see Aetheria as such.. *looks out the window* but as hell hasnt froze over yet, meh whats a toon to do.Tsavong wrote:I think the whole multi-boxing thing boils down to the fact that people who multi-box two of three toons have a greater impact on play than a guy who is just playing a lone toon. My personal belief is that NS4 should be one person one toon.
PS some people rely on dual in order to level themselves, while I think it might be good for them to enjoy a lil more sociability in thier leveling, it should be by thier choice, so outside of PvP matters, multi box till your electricity bill rivials that of small nations.
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Re: Factional 3 way (avoiding lockdown)
I am one of those evil people who dual boxes quite a bit. I multi-box most of the time while leveling and it is very awesome to be able too. In fact I plan to level similar ECL toons together. Running around with two ECL3 toons (melee type and caster type) works great for leveling.
I generally can only log for short periods of time (less than 2 hours). Most times I am unable to find a similar level group; especially at the higher levels. Yea I do really miss the interaction of being in a group; but most times it just does not work out to wait for a group just to get some xp at the upper levels. Most places, at the higher level toons (especially ECL3), a single toon can not solo. And trying to grind on CR mosters 5-10 below is worse than bashing my head against the wall.
And I have done a lil multi box during PvP. It can be very difficult and I do get confused during the PvP. I will say that, at a minimum, it works out to be a wash multi boxing between the divided attention and the synergy created. If a person can bounce between toons effectively while multi boxing then it will be a benefit.
I am glad the relic events are single box. I can see and understand the argument either way for PvP. I generally do not multi box in PvP because I am not that good at it.
I would really hate for NS4 to only be single box for leveling (PvM). That would drastically cut down on my ability to have fun for the majority of time I play.
I generally can only log for short periods of time (less than 2 hours). Most times I am unable to find a similar level group; especially at the higher levels. Yea I do really miss the interaction of being in a group; but most times it just does not work out to wait for a group just to get some xp at the upper levels. Most places, at the higher level toons (especially ECL3), a single toon can not solo. And trying to grind on CR mosters 5-10 below is worse than bashing my head against the wall.
And I have done a lil multi box during PvP. It can be very difficult and I do get confused during the PvP. I will say that, at a minimum, it works out to be a wash multi boxing between the divided attention and the synergy created. If a person can bounce between toons effectively while multi boxing then it will be a benefit.
I am glad the relic events are single box. I can see and understand the argument either way for PvP. I generally do not multi box in PvP because I am not that good at it.
I would really hate for NS4 to only be single box for leveling (PvM). That would drastically cut down on my ability to have fun for the majority of time I play.
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In my opinion, in PVM, dual logging is fine. In pvp, its fine. In relic focused combat (i.e. tri logging to get an advantage and take the relic) its not. Basically, the person with more computers gets more xp bonus.
Bargeld wrote:Overall, I think most would agree that a pure rogue is probably the worst build on the server.
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That statement kinda negates itself, because the PvM dual logging gets more XP as well. The xp bonus is a side issue. It's the gameplay balance and enjoyment factor that should be the focus for relic PvP.
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Well, the XP bonus from relics is being denied to other factions as well, which I should have made clear.Bargeld wrote:That statement kinda negates itself, because the PvM dual logging gets more XP as well. The xp bonus is a side issue. It's the gameplay balance and enjoyment factor that should be the focus for relic PvP.
Bargeld wrote:Overall, I think most would agree that a pure rogue is probably the worst build on the server.
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Yes, that is true. Unfair hoarders!
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BURN THEM!!!!!!!Bargeld wrote:Yes, that is true. Unfair hoarders!




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And now, at long last, you finally understand FoN's perspective on this issue (as well as every other issue). Let us cook marshmallows over their smouldering corpses!weasel423 wrote:BURN THEM!!!!!!!Bargeld wrote:Yes, that is true. Unfair hoarders!![]()
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Bargeld wrote:It's been shown in past relic events even, if NC actually has a decent amount of players involved, they will win.
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Praise Torm!
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Burn Torm too!frogofpeace wrote:Praise Torm!
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Evil will always triumph because good is dumb
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Well, you can try.weasel423 wrote:Burn Torm too!frogofpeace wrote:Praise Torm!

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