Ok, didn't exactly start a new thread, but I updated the wiki with all the new druid and shifter form stats, abilities and weapons. There are a few things I didn't know when it came to bonuses outside of what is on the change log and the forums (I have no builds with undead, construct or dragon shape) and I am particularly out of the loop with the new dragon forms and what exactly some of the construct abilities do. let me know what I need to add/change.Rufio wrote:yeah, there isn't any really good documentation of the shifter abilities. I have a few shifters so I have a pretty good idea of what everything does, but it is still pretty vague sometimes. In fact, lets compile them. I am going to start a new thread...
A few shifter questions
Re: A few shifter questions
Sebastian (TSS) Doc - Rufio of (TSS) - Dagr (TSS)
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Raijin {FoN} - Arcadia {FoN} - Geb {FoN}
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It is great you bless us with your presence.
Until you actually play one, there is the difference. anyone can spout how much this toon needs changing but when you play one it is different. Don't listen to cluckster on changes because there is 2 of them and fair and balance is in the mix for this server right? Anyone can get upon there soapbox and preach, but when you are in the trenches you will understand.Forms were designed around not having those things. Designed is probably too strong a word...I randomly mucked with stuff until Cluckster decided it didn't suck
For third classes, fighter and rogue are ok in a bunch of different mixes (13 rogue + 25 dex = epic dodge). Cler for divine feats (would cap dodge ac too easily I suppose), bard for a great skill list...
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that you need to get up on the frigging soapbox and make a difference.Ryddwillow wrote:It is great you bless us with your presence.
Until you actually play one, there is the difference. anyone can spout how much this toon needs changing but when you play one it is different. Don't listen to cluckster on changes because there is 2 of them and fair and balance is in the mix for this server right? Anyone can get upon there soapbox and preach, but when you are in the trenches you will understand.Forms were designed around not having those things. Designed is probably too strong a word...I randomly mucked with stuff until Cluckster decided it didn't suck
For third classes, fighter and rogue are ok in a bunch of different mixes (13 rogue + 25 dex = epic dodge). Cler for divine feats (would cap dodge ac too easily I suppose), bard for a great skill list...
Bargeld wrote:Overall, I think most would agree that a pure rogue is probably the worst build on the server.
Re: A few shifter questions
We asked for testers. We got one. Better response than normal on that one Cluckster's a usual MVP in the relic wars, if it's broken it's because I wasn't told everything lol.Ryddwillow wrote:It is great you bless us with your presence.
Until you actually play one, there is the difference. anyone can spout how much this toon needs changing but when you play one it is different. Don't listen to cluckster on changes because there is 2 of them and fair and balance is in the mix for this server right? Anyone can get upon there soapbox and preach, but when you are in the trenches you will understand.Forms were designed around not having those things. Designed is probably too strong a word...I randomly mucked with stuff until Cluckster decided it didn't suck
For third classes, fighter and rogue are ok in a bunch of different mixes (13 rogue + 25 dex = epic dodge). Cler for divine feats (would cap dodge ac too easily I suppose), bard for a great skill list...
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See here, If you actually go thru all my post here it is minimal. Remember bitter one that I have been here for 5.5 yrs and you? Makes no difference to me but I do have opinions like you in life and I do to. I was pretty much quiet on forums for 5 yrs and now some subjects spark my interest because i like this server and some tards are ruining the server to my opinion, Hell I am gonna speak and I would not except any lessor then listening to fatso from tlb on these forums for almost a year. So if you have an opinion about me and where I came from you can stick it up your arse for all I care. If you have something againest me then please send me a tell so we can take care of this situation, otherwise the BIG DOG is gonna sleep on the porch for now .that you need to get up on the frigging soapbox and make a difference.
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Just for curiosity's sake.Ryddwillow wrote:because i like this server and some tards are ruining the server to my opinion
'Exactly' what are the things that you would like to see changed and/or changed back?
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MORE COWBELL!
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Re: A few shifter questions
Everything!!!!!Dalan wrote:Just for curiosity's sake.
'Exactly' what are the things that you would like to see changed and/or changed back?
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I proved I was the best when a developer was throwing epic toons at us when we were fighting them. You could log on when a future DM made a druid dragon and was like one of the best. Your mind was all ready made up that dragons were dangerous. Dangerous to whom? My war cleric could take down the best dragons and my pure barb. A pure fighter built right could to. Shapes now really are not that good. I see a few making shapes, but as a druid dragon you cant compete versus other classes successfully. Need to play the toon for a bit before you adjusted it. Play it is all your toon, dont listen to a dm unless they logged time in in playing it.We asked for testers. We got one. Better response than normal on that one Cluckster's a usual MVP in the relic wars, if it's broken it's because I wasn't told everything lol.
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nothing against clucksters but i am better.
I went to Elda and a few other TC ppl and got their response. Did you read them and pass them bye?
'Exactly' what are the things that you would like to see changed and/or changed back?
I went to Elda and a few other TC ppl and got their response. Did you read them and pass them bye?
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You quite simply aren't. 95% of the server isn't as good as Cluckster, and guess what Willow, you're in the 95%.Ryddwillow wrote:nothing against clucksters but i am better.
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Willow, whether good, better, or best there is an amazing term in the dictionary that I believe that you should read up on.Ryddwillow wrote:nothing against clucksters but i am better
Main Entry: hu·mil·i·ty
Pronunciation: \hyü-ˈmi-lə-tē, yü-\
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
: the quality or state of being humble
Noun 1. humility - a disposition to be humble; a lack of false pride
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You are wrong, he needs this more:muze wrote:Willow, whether good, better, or best there is an amazing term in the dictionary that I believe that you should read up on.Ryddwillow wrote:nothing against clucksters but i am better
Main Entry: hu·mil·i·ty
Pronunciation: \hyü-ˈmi-lə-tē, yü-\
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
: the quality or state of being humble
Noun 1. humility - a disposition to be humble; a lack of false pride
reality check
–noun
a corrective confronting of reality, in order to counteract one's expectations, prejudices, or the like.
Origin:
1970–75
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There's also another one:
arrogance
The assumption that ones self-worth is far superior to others. A false sense of pride. Foolishly believing that everyone is inferior to you, looks up to you, and should bow down to your graces.
arrogance
The assumption that ones self-worth is far superior to others. A false sense of pride. Foolishly believing that everyone is inferior to you, looks up to you, and should bow down to your graces.
Bargeld wrote:Overall, I think most would agree that a pure rogue is probably the worst build on the server.
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I tend to say what is on my mind BTW. Really? LoL. You played a dwarf rogue forever and a some FON toons. So now you can judge me on my toons that I have built and exiperienced? What a joke this actuation is, you need to do some serious research next time.You quite simply aren't. 95% of the server isn't as good as Cluckster, and guess what Willow, you're in the 95%.
I never claimed to be a English major and if you decide to criticize me then go for it, I have other things on my agenda to accomplish.