Revenge loging, and duel loging

[Tsavong]

Ok the forum have been fairly empty of late so lets start a debate about something and see where it goes.

The other day I was going down the mountain on a lvl 40 who I had left there after rezing some lowbies the day be for. On the way down I see a lowbie who has been buffed by a high lvl cleric, he is having trouble so I stay and watch may be I would have rezed him had he died who knows. Soon enough up comes the high lvl cleric who has powerlvled him this cleric is a cleric of an enemy faction so I decided to give it a dam good thrashing. After I did that the lowbie logges out and a lvl 40 loged on. From the accouts I could see going in an out the cleric the lowbie and the lvl 40 were all the same person duel loging. The lvl 40 runs up to were I am and attacks then kills me. When I sent him or her a tell about venge loging the reply I got was the high lvl cleric was still on.

So the point of this long waffling post is. The revenge loging rule is.

V - Thou shalt not relog any character to exact revenge on a lost PvP fight, whether higher or lower in level than your original character. In the case of defending your faction city, this will be allowed if you do not change the faction of your original character. Relogging a character is not allowed in order to raise fallen comrades if the area around the bodies is still in the midst of active PvP involving the same players that killed you or your party.

Now the player in question had lost the 1st fight and used a 2nd account and pc to keep the 1st character loged in wall brining a 40 to in act revenge.

So is this a loophole or was it venge loging? Or is it one rule for people with one PC and another for people with 2 or more?

[Amoenotep]

and so enters a question that plagues any server that lets you access it from multiple points at the same time.

[mgrjebbo]

Who cares

Stop rules lawyering and go play.......

Give it a rest already. You lost. Go somewhere else. Stop crying. The reason the boards have been quiet is NS4 or so I thought had gotten rid of all the cry babies.

If people didnt cry so much there wouldnt be a need for any rules. It would be cut throat and everyone would hate each other. It would be glorious!

[Amoenotep]

i met up with that cleric on the mountain one day....killed him, and the 2 other lowbies the guy was running at the same time.


i laughed cuz he died to the hands of a shifter

[Alkapwn]

If people didnt cry so much there wouldnt be a need for any rules. It would be cut throat and everyone would hate each other. It would be glorious!

I'm down with that

[Tal]

I think you should have just won the fight and then gloated while asking the question... but since you lost here is the answer that the DM's failed to provide...


STOP WHINING AND BUILD BETTER!!!!

[mgrjebbo]

Lol Tep, that was me. The person this guy is talking about who relogged was not. So your not talking about the same person. I dont relog i just move on. I dont have enough time to mess about with that. I want the 20 mins I actualy do have to play to count. Besides I havent played enough to get a 40 yet since the wipe.....

*Puts on his sad face*

[Amoenotep]

nah jebbo, i was testing out my newest cheesetastic shifter build and happened upon a guy that was triple boxing. i didn't know it at the time, but when i realized it i laughed so hard milk shot out of my nose. this was last week i think

[mgrjebbo]

How'd you figure out he was triple boxing? Course triple boxing on the mountain isnt as hard as running 2 soccer players I would think. Trying to keep the goalie in the box and run an attacker is darn hard to do.

[Amoenotep]

How'd you figure out he was triple boxing? Course triple boxing on the mountain isnt as hard as running 2 soccer players I would think. Trying to keep the goalie in the box and run an attacker is darn hard to do.

i know the player..and he said something to me off his 3rd account that had to do with the first 2

[MrAsimov]

and so enters a question that plagues any server that lets you access it from multiple points at the same time.

I don't believe the question was whether it was possible for him to prove it was the same person but whether what he says happened is against the rule as it is being applied, as we all know people do dual log.

Who cares

Stop rules lawyering and go play.......

Give it a rest already. You lost. Go somewhere else. Stop crying.

Bit overly sensitive there. There was no crying going on, but a simple question about how a server commandment is to be applied. The application of commandments can sometimes be rather hard to fathom to those of us whom don't have access to multiple computers and NWN keys.

If people didnt cry so much there wouldnt be a need for any rules. It would be cut throat and everyone would hate each other. It would be glorious!

The first sentence is actually a bit illogical overall since without rules, the crying (or whining or complaining) about people breaking the rules, couldn't actually occur. Though perhaps for some people the second part of the quote is quite true.

V - Thou shalt not relog any character to exact revenge on a lost PvP fight, whether higher or lower in level than your original character.

What seems to have occured does appear to go against the spirit of the law which supposedly is what is what we are to go by when trying to follow the rules. Personally I build so horribly that for me to venge log, or dual log if I could, with multiple 40s would still probably mean dying repeatedly, but that as well as a number of replies above is not relevant to the initial question at all.

And in closing to a post I was far too tired to write:

I'm not quite sure of the purpose of the quoted law on this server. I consistently see on shout and in the forum that this is a PvP server and not to cry about being killed. If someone is allowed to go about killing whomever they like in PvP and that is reasonable, what exactly is the difference if you log someone else to PvP with them? Isn't that exactly what we are being told the server is about, PvP? Does it ruin the fun of the high level guy who just killed the low level if he actually has to PvP someone who isn't multiple levels below him because it certainly seems as if the low level players being slaughtered don't usually enjoy it all that much.

[mgrjebbo]

Oh stop, everyone with a single shred of common sense knows that venge logging is against the rules no matter if you do it with one computer or two. SO what if one of your toons doesnt die and you only relog the one that died.

Thats the stupidest argument I have ever heard.....

Venge logging is venge logging. Screen shot it. Send it to a dm. Done and Done.

If it doenst bother you when someone venge logs against you do what i do and do nothing. IF they want to take the game that serious laugh at them and move on. Why waste yours or anyone elses time to deal with a childish person?

I am not actualy upset, agrivated or otherwise mood changed about this topic. I was just going for an emmy thats all.

Anyway Common sense rules the day.

I dont have to be a DM to answer the original question.

Yes what that person did was against the rules. They venge logged.

I even did it with out any facning qouting....

[Tru3Fals3]

How'd you figure out he was triple boxing? Course triple boxing on the mountain isnt as hard as running 2 soccer players I would think. Trying to keep the goalie in the box and run an attacker is darn hard to do.

hehe i found it much easier running the healer and the hitter....

[Tsavong]

Ah people whining about people whining, umm irony.

Yes I lost the 2nd fight but that’s not the point of the post I don’t care if I win or loose really if I did I would have given up pvp along time ago.

What I am ‘whining’ about here is he reloged his lowby who was on the same screen as the cleric I had killed to take revenge for the death of his cleric and said it was not revenge loging as he cleric who had died was still loged in.

As someone who can not afford 2 or more pcs and cant duel or more log it stuck me as unfair that he thought it was fair and ok for him to do so especially considering people get banned for revenge loging if they can’t duel or more log.

[cRaZy8or5e]

Jebbo as always does such a wonderful job of communicating his feelings.

What he's trying to say, is "stop multi-logging bashing cuz I take it personally."

While the rest of us multi-loggers just go on about our business. That or he just hates you personally Tsavong.

Oh and well, it was venge-logging and wrong, so screenie it next time so the authorities can handle it. Or at least be aware of it.