Bigby and you

[Lokey]

Grasping Hand, Clenched Fist, Crushing Hand.

I'll give it a week to determine if bugs are fixed by what I did yesterday. If I don't hear anything, they're gone.

[burrahobbit]

what did you do?

[Shhhhhhh]

and with 'they're gone' do you by any chance mean remove Bigby spells?

[Korr]

I think he was referring to these screen shots here. Though when I was encountered with this particular fellow (wont name him and dunno if his name is in the screenies (dont care)) it wasnt just bigby that would do this. It was like I had 15 or so bigby on me at once, this same thing happened with grease, after some counterspelling about 15-20 grease got laid in one spot . . . and yes they were active grease spells (didnt cap that but it was a completely black area on the floor).
The screenshots are in chronological order, the time span of about 1 round.




EDIT : Even after all his dispells and bigby he had to run away from me (and died shortly after with some help from IOs)

[Ajantis.]

[Lokey]

Going to be a busy week, not going to have much energy left for devving.

I glanced over the Bigby methods the other day, there's certainly a pile of safety checks and so on, which is why it's vexxing stuff like this happens. If I didn't almost exclusively play chars with a few banish/dismissal ready and knock off Bigby stuff the millisecond it appears, I could have noticed and started nerfing earlier

It is several hundred lines of code between the three spells, so there could be something I missed (most of it is generating message text because that's a PITA).

The reason I just want to pull the plug if we can't come up with a simple fix on them is the amount of dev time thrown down that particular rathole. It's not darkness, but it's close (please, someone complain about darkness lol). Coming up with something new that wouldn't be sick overpowered when you get it or useless endgame would be a challenge that I'm not taking on.

[Chernobyl_Glow]

So can we have someone test to see if your fixes worked before we eliminate them? It would be unfortunate to lose Bigby in general.

Just my two cents.

- Glow -

[Lokey]

Would be nice. Since no feedback, I'm just going to assume the fix didn't work.

I'll make a stab at reproducing myself before I rip them out, but I was unsuccessful with the shifter death = crash no matter what I tried...so err on the side of caution.

[cRaZy8or5e]

Bigbies crushing hand was using concentration check to see if it could hit and "grapple" target, as well as for stun attack.

[Lokey]

Thx to Ferret for throwing Bigby's at my bard. Looks ok, can't think of specific situations that would cause issues.

(Note to self: make sure previous Bigby thread is killed in all cases!)

[Lokey]

Pseudo fix. I think if it can be taken advantage of now, the player/players involved could be doing any number of other horrific things.

[cRaZy8or5e]

Bigsby from Handmaiden was not taking into account epic skill focus discipline in the opposed discipline check for stunning.

[Tsavong]

i thought it was allways just bace ranks of discipline?

[VagaStorm]

i thought it was allways just bace ranks of discipline?

I thought is was base skill +focuses but without stat or gear..

[Korr]

According to the wiki it should be base ranks + focuses. I hope thats right ';) anyone clarify for us?