Zone Owning

[Heeza]

Perhaps there is info on this somewhere and I haven't found it yet. So, I've decided to ask the question here.

Twice now I've heard of Players declaring "such-n-such" zone as theirs. Anyone coming into that zone will be killed; repeatedly if necessary. Now, before someone says, "Well, just avoid that zone" I would like to mention that sometimes blocking a zone denies you access to other places.

i.e. Your friends/group is waiting for you on Giant Mountain, but someone is "owning" Ogre Pass.

Perhaps these issues are handled case by case.

Any Official word would be greatly appreciated
Thanks

[MLoki]

I believe it falls under this ruling.

IX - Thou shalt not harass another player so that it disurpts that player's enjoyment of the game. In the case of excessive PKing, it becomes harassment when you kill the same character more than three times within a six hour period (real world time). The only exceptions to this excessive PKing prohibition are: the killer stays in the same area with the intention of taking the area over for a period of time, whether or not they announce this publicly; the dead player is the one who picks a subsequent fight; the killer is defending their HOME city (not their ally's) and the dead player is within their city's limits; or if a player wanders into a fight or raid already in progress and is killed in the crossfire accidentally.

And I think the only exception to that is Rift Shards zones and exits from them. I don't believe you can "occupy" the only exit from a Rift Shard with the intent of killing anybody trying to leave the Rift Shard zone.

[Chernobyl_Glow]

So, I'm just curious about this too.

Revenge logging is also against the rules. I.e. I get killed while playing a low level character, I log out and log onto a high level char and go hunt down my assailant. That is not allowed.

However, since the scenario where the killer is staying in one place and claiming property is allowed. And it is allowed for that player to kill another player numerous times as an exception. Would it also be acceptable for me to log onto a higher level character and relieve the area of the bully?

Again I'm just curious.

- Glow -

[MLoki]

I believe that is covered here;

V - Thou shalt not relog any character to exact revenge on a lost PvP fight, whether higher or lower in level than your original character. In the case of defending your faction city, this will be allowed if you do not change the faction of your original character. Relogging a character is not allowed in order to raise fallen comrades if the area around the bodies is still in the midst of active PvP involving the same players that killed you or your party.

For further questions regarding the PvP rules consider reading this;

http://www.nsrealm.com/public/ns/viewto ... =18&t=1828

and this;

http://www.nsrealm.com/public/ns/viewto ... =23&t=1243

and I do believe putting yourself in a situation where you are "happen" to run into the original PKer after you log onto another character does put you in violation of this rule. I also know they consider "area" to not be limited to one Zone. So if you are just passing by or even close to where you were PKed with your other character you could still get in trouble if you engage the player who killed you. Your best bet is to either wait 30 minutes or ask permission to log another character and SS the conversation. If he is actually looking for some good PvP he won't mind you bringing another toon that may challenge him.

*edit
I should get the special forum tag "Rules Lawyer" for understanding even some of the physics behind the PvP rules here.

[Alkapwn]

Yeah no kidding Mloki .
FYI. Every Zone im in I claim FTW!!!

Also an admendum too glow's question.
1/2 of an hour is the wait period to log another toon in to attack the offending player. Taking into account no contact has been made since that pk/loss (which includes running away). Sometimes Zone claiming is annoying but most of the time it can be quite fun for all parties involved.

I got a question too!
oh wait i typed it out and figured out the answer lol nvm

[Korr]

I never looked into it, but if you relog a different toon and are attacked by ther person who killed your first toon you can attack back. The baiting of the attack (going to the "owned zone") based off of this shouldnt be a problem I wouldnt think.

[VagaStorm]

I never looked into it, but if you relog a different toon and are attacked by ther person who killed your first toon you can attack back. The baiting of the attack (going to the "owned zone") based off of this shouldnt be a problem I wouldnt think.

If doing this, I would be wery carfull to ss the combat log in case someone shouts foul