Anything else I need to make suck?

[Lokey]

Added a specific silence check to curse song, though I thought silence also threw on deafened, which is more important in that case excepting the bard being able to curse song in the first place.

abjuration focus feats add to DC for saving throws.
Dispell checks are based on caster level and have nothing to do with saving throws. Is there a server change not on the wiki?

There's tons of stuff that isn't on the wiki, there's stuff on the wiki that's wrong or outdated; that's life as a wiki. There were no abjuration spells with saves (I don't think any were added--I think that's also true for conjuration and divination), and we wanted it to actually do something (abjuration focus means your spells are harder to dispel and you can dispel easier, conjuration means better summons and something else, divination does a few different things too)

[Korr]

Grease is conjuration I believe

[priestofbast]

i personally think this rocks. . .tryin to make it come closer to the real D&D intent is great with me

even if its a pain for one reason or another, it is closer to the game i grew up loving ...

thanks for the effort guys

catty

[Korr]

I agree entirely with glow, some methods I dont agree with but I like the changes

[cRaZy8or5e]

Sorcerors and Wizards need to be made to suck, unless the Northern Coalition can have one of those classes. Then they are fine the way they are

[Celorn]

*from out of nowhere Celorn appears*

silence - I made a silence cleric once to test out the silence spell and found it pretty useless: 1. it lasted about 1 minute, 2. since it's a circle spell, it's very buggy when you move around. 3. SR resists it and since it's such a low level spell it was easily resisted by most casters I tested it on.

as for nerfs... Whatever happened to that modification to SL that gave SL toons bonus power in menzo and even more power in the temple of lloth?? I went thru the entire changelog but it wasn't there - were those bonuses removed? or was just the post removed??

also, once AO has jobs I will lift my personal ns4 boycott and play NS4 regularly again, but until then I'll be playing wow with my fiance and warhammer online...

[LinuxPup]

as for nerfs... Whatever happened to that modification to SL that gave SL toons bonus power in menzo and even more power in the temple of lloth?? I went thru the entire changelog but it wasn't there - were those bonuses removed? or was just the post removed??

Huh? Sounds like assassin's ability which should still work.

[Korr]

My level 25 assasin has 12 assassin levels, the kill DC is not right at all. With 11 intelligence modifier and 12 assassin levels my kill DC should be 28 anywhere, but everytime i test it I only get intelligence modifier + 5. So my could be good kill DC of 28 is 16, which I couldnt kill anything but a rat or a beetle with.

[disastro]

silence pwns arcane casters who are not real good at their jobs. clerics have a harder time avoiding it but it's not all that hard if you put a tiny bit of thought into it.

[Alkapwn]

My level 25 assasin has 12 assassin levels, the kill DC is not right at all. With 11 intelligence modifier and 12 assassin levels my kill DC should be 28 anywhere, but everytime i test it I only get intelligence modifier + 5. So my could be good kill DC of 28 is 16, which I couldnt kill anything but a rat or a beetle with.

Sounds like your toon is bugged. Ive seen other assassins quite recently with quite high DC's 40+

[Malik]

The kill DC and paralyze are different, paralyze is hard coded where Linux's poison could be made what ever he saw fit. Let me dig up how its calculated just in case yours is correct.

Assassin hits creature. If target is currently attacking another creature or casting a spell, the target isn't vulnerable. Target must make a fortitude save or die. DC is 5 + Assassin Level + Intelligence modifier.

(Seems your right, I get the feeling somewhere alone the line it may have been changed to 1/2 assassin level) I could be totally wrong though as it still doesn't add up.. I'll check my DC.

[Korr]

Yeah and 12 assassin levels with 11 int modifier = 23 > 17 DC that I had (should have been 28 DC)

[Malik]

Mine calculates through as it should, next time your on try and get a DMs attention.

[Lorkar]

I have had similar issues with the poison attack as well although the DC was more a random thing than anything else. My Assassin has 24 levels of Assassin with a +8 int mod and my DC's ranged from 17-32. The Death Attack DC is working fine at a 43.

[Malik]

Alright, we'll look into these issues hopefully I see you two in game soon.