Shifter weapons and you?

[Daltian]

Was that intentional?

[Reaver.....[RR]]

AFAIK it is. Shifty overhaul and whatnot. Such a shame *cough*

[Celorn]

no, the devs really do want HiPS kobolds running around with high AC and shortswords doing the damage of the dwp halberd or pos scythe plus the TC job bonus damage and sneak attacks too!!

[Nyeleni]

Yeah, especially as kobolds dont have short swords and hips anymore. But maybe you want to play some WoW and Warhammer again? Besides dragging old threads from the necrovault of course ;D.

[Celorn]

lol

i sense much bitterness...

I am keeping tabs on ns4 but not to a great depth, and even tho it didn't effect me directly, one of the main reasons I am taking a vacation is because of the shifter nerfing - all it seems to have done is unbalance things instead of balance.

[Nyeleni]

Why?

I never played a shifter on NS4 and I certainly won't in the near future. But maybe you were looking into a mirror when you wrote "bitterness" down?

Admitted "aggressive" is the adjective you might be looking for. At least I didn't leave NS4 for another game, "infidel" (in the old latin meaning of disloyal for you illiterates out there), lol, I just have no internet and time yet at my new home (ok, here might be some undercurrents of bitterness heh).



But let's go back to the original question: I hope it was an oversight, as weapons should merge, shouldn't they?

[Fezz]

Well EVERYONE knows my thoughts on this topic by now, im still not happy with how absolutlely useless ALL the undead shapes are now, but meh its not my server and i will trust those that have made it such a great place to play for so long in their thoughts behind it all.

Celorn is one of those who used to kill my massive AC to much ab crit sneak mind cant heal yourself solo rag at 24 risen lord in 2 rnds. IMO it was completely forgotten that as a true undead thing maxed searing lights etc killed it REAL fast and yes i could be turned quite easily but heh im not bitter anyomore - much .

[Celorn]

Why?

I never played a shifter on NS4 and I certainly won't in the near future. But maybe you were looking into a mirror when you wrote "bitterness" down?

Admitted "aggressive" is the adjective you might be looking for. At least I didn't leave NS4 for another game, "infidel" (in the old latin meaning of disloyal for you illiterates out there), lol, I just have no internet and time yet at my new home (ok, here might be some undercurrents of bitterness heh).

That's the bitterness i meant and the high-and-mighty 'I am 100% faithful to ns4 and play no other games at all!' attitude

I have to say tho; 1. I didn't LEAVE for any other game, I simply want to try out other games sometimes so i take a vacation from NS4, my computer is a bit overpowered to only play an ancient came from 2002, & 2. I played AoC and was disappointed, and even while I was still $ub$cribed to AoC I came back to ns4 to get my guild back together, made a new guild hall w/new colours, posted ~20 RK-builds to the tLB forums, leveled 5 toons into their 20's/30's and have explored all the new areas and gear (except for dragon plane).

Now I'm back as much as I can be, I'm not playing Warhammer yet -- I'm holding off until they fix a bunch of really annoying bugs first, but it looks to be a nice game - level 40 cap too just like nwn. But I certainly consider NS4 my 'home' game and will always return.

But let's go back to the original question: I hope it was an oversight, as weapons should merge, shouldn't they?

I'd say yes... not sure why any Devs haven't spoken up on this - or have they in another thread?

This actually does effect me or at least my faction, as dragonshape is a form available to my faction (I've just personally never built a druid)

And pre-wipe I found some shifter shapes were a fun challenge, but others were TOTAL BS, still they should find a happy medium and set it in stone -- look thru the changelog, i think at least 33% of the changes in there are shifting-related!

[LinuxPup]

I'm not sure what the status on merging is... I removed it earlier because it was applying the merged weapon damage on top of the base weaon's, giving it twice the damage (not acceptable). I think Lokey removed the damage on the base weapon so it merges again, but I'm not sure. Shifters are definitely a pain to deal with from a dev perspective... takes more work to balance than just about anything.

[Lokey]

Change log: if it has a weap listed it merges, if it does not it's set. This method, not crashy. Dragons will eat you if they can catch you.

Why was this thread necro'd again?

[Malik]

There you have it, is the shape has a weapon in hand your weapon will merge. If the shape has its own claws (IE: Dragon) then your weapon will not merge. If you are unsure if a shape has a weapon the change log has every shape logged. (If you are bored add them to the wiki. ;

http://www.nsrealm.com/public/ns/viewto ... &start=225

Dragons will eat you if they can catch you.

Thread is locked to avoid any more redundancy.