LA cradle bug

[Eldaquen]

There maybe a bug with the LA cradle regarding NPC defenders. After searching and dispatching all the NPC Defenders within the castle; the cradle sent defenders rally to cradle message instead of defenders were defeated by message. I noticed that the Ghaal NPC was attempting to raise the fallen NPC's before their corpes despawned. Could this be causing an issue with cradle thinking those dispatched NPC's are there when they are not?

[DM_Kim]

I believe the Ghaal NPC is a defender. So the cradle would be correct if he wasn't killed off before you touched it.

If you did kill him off.. then it could be a bug.

[Azeel3]

The nite before last La took a large party to NC and seems like that problem exsists there and in SL as well. There has always been and always will be bugs in a system this large and complex, but just pointing at La and going here is the problemis not the answer.

[Go'f]

I also have been caught short by the LA cradle room (by room i mean compleat map) being empty and yet still not giving up its payload. On at least one occasion this has resulted in extra time for a defender PC to relog, buff, and sneak while the raiding PC is wondering around with buffs falling off in an empty castle trying to find the (etheral ?) NPC defender.

I was of the understanding this bug is known to LA a number of LA PC (at least the PC who killed me explained it happens reasonably often and all his mates knew about it too).

My encounter with this was after epic defenders were put in but before the NPC raising code went in... hope that little bit of extra helps anyone looking into it.

so in short... *points* LA has a problem

[frogofpeace]

I've seen it happen before the res code went in, if that's any help, and in more than one cradle. Happened in NC a night or two ago.

[Benjamin Linus]

I've noticed it happens a lot via DM spawned epic defenders.

[Amoenotep]

the relic defender code goes off of npc's spawned in with the relic cradle..not with extra npc's spawned in via dm client. technically the relic cradle doesn't exist in the room until a pc enters it triggering the spawn codes.


id say this looks like the defender code is reading dead defenders as still alive as they are still targetable by other npc rez'rs....kill everything, make sure its dead, make sure none are hiding, make sure the corpses are gone..think this might clear up the problems? common sense?

[Go'f]

After four laps searching I can say, my level 40 spot maxed, True seeing, Elf could detect no NPC remaining in the castle. even checked up the little hallway thing.

[cRaZy8or5e]

This happens to me about 25% of the time. I always run around and clear every room before touching the cradle. This is especially true as usually I'm solo during my raids. Its an easy fix as no defenders spawn in, but its still annoying as I do have to take the time to run out of the cradle and come back in, meanwhile giving the PC defenders a chance to get buffed and come to defend their cradle.

This has never happened at any other cradle that I have raided. However the frequency with which this happens at LA is pretty high which makes me think that there is something about the mobs there that is creating these circumstances. (cheap shot) I can't think of anything else, perhaps its the mantle the ghaele's cast, get rid of that and maybe our problems will be fixed ;P.

In reality I don't have the slightest idea why this would happen. Has this happened to anyone else raiding other cradles?

This has happened a lot for a long time now though. Its not a recent development, and has happened to me for as long as I can remember being on the server.

If only common sense could cure this problem as well, but alas 'tep, common sense was standing there befuddled along with me, scratching my head for me while shaking his head in confusion.

[Amoenotep]

we found something odd in some of the defender coding...we're looking into it right now

[SkotG]

Great thanks for looking into it so fast

[Amoenotep]

maybe we'll change it..maybe we won't..how much money you guys got?

[LinuxPup]

Checked in a fix that may fix this problem in certain circumstances... no guarantee yet since I don't know how to reproduce the problem.

[cRaZy8or5e]

maybe we'll change it..maybe we won't..how much money you guys got?

I got a dollar
I got a dollar
I got a dollar hey hey hey hey

[Celorn]

This has never happened at any other cradle that I have raided. However the frequency with which this happens at LA is pretty high which makes me think that there is something about the mobs there that is creating these circumstances. (cheap shot) I can't think of anything else, perhaps its the mantle the ghaele's cast, get rid of that and maybe our problems will be fixed ;P.

In reality I don't have the slightest idea why this would happen. Has this happened to anyone else raiding other cradles?

This has happened a lot for a long time now though. Its not a recent development, and has happened to me for as long as I can remember being on the server.

IT DOES HAPPEN on other cradles! lol... I've had it happen both in NC and SL.

I'd guess it has something to do with the new corpse delay code... perhaps it sometimes leaves a thread open that hangs the defender script check.