Stuck in graphic

heresy · Post by **heresy** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:14 pm

how about a "move me 5 feet forward" function in the diary
so that when i get stuck in a graphic i can do something about it

Post by **Malik** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:47 pm

Not a bad idea, but it would add much potential to some exploits, teleporting through walls, past locked doors, over traps, taking relics outside of walk paths, if you're really stuck somewhere you can always try to DE, relog, transmutate, see if a DM is on, and alot of the time playing with the walk keys on the keyboard instead of clicking.

Post by **LinuxPup** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:28 pm

Yeah that's an interesting idea.... there seems to be a script with the relics that drops it by an entrance to the map if you log... perhaps teleporting to a map entrance would be a good choice.

Blystos Re · Post by **Blystos Re** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:05 pm

Your location is saved at area transition, but if you use a diary function it overwrites that location with your current.

In my experience, (please, correct me if I'm wrong) if I log without resting or using the diary, then I am kicked to the last transition when I log back in. Wouldn't this work if you were trapped in a graphic?

-BannyD- · Post by **-BannyD-** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:08 pm

that sounds like a good idea, but what if enemies are nearby? lots of times you can get stuck on a ledge in some dungeon with enemies still all over the place. being able to use such a teleport while enemies are nearby, however, poses more exploit problems, especially if a relic would teleport with you....im just thinking about instantly porting away from danger and back to the start of the map.

its a good idea, but i wouldnt want any exploits to be created in its implementation...and currently...im not sure what kind of rules in its useage would prevent exploitation.

Myrdyr · Post by **Myrdyr** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:38 pm

Usually when I get stuck, relogging fixes it.

Nolan Silvermoon · Post by **Nolan Silvermoon** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:15 am

i usually play with the keyboard controlls and can extract myself or if your with someone they can push you out of the situation also.

heresy · Post by **heresy** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:01 pm

i obviously get stuck better than you heh
of all the times ive been stuck relogging has only fixed it once
but i still try
and rest first so im ready for the monsters
and if i cant get out after relogging 20 times there can be monsters to close to DE out but behind walls or something else that prevents me from killing them

i was stuck yesterday.
relogging didnt help, couldnt DE .
i was still stuck later after a reset.
keyboard moving didnt help.
fall forwards/backwards and other emotes didnt help.
you forgot "cast a summon at yer feet, sometimes it displaces you away from the obstacle" but i didnt have that option as a paladin anyway.
finally someone came out and killed me

a "port me to map entrance" function would work
it wouldnt port you out of danger, you cant access the book dialog in a fight

or, add another option to black welcome screen
1 neversummer info
2 change dialog
3 party loot
4 warp to bind point
5 enter neversummer

Post by **Binkyuk** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:35 pm

it would port you out of danger. bouncing back to the map entrance makes you a step away from the zone boundary and safety.

Blystos Re · Post by **Blystos Re** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:05 pm

heresy wrote:i obviously get stuck better than you heh
of all the times ive been stuck relogging has only fixed it once
but i still try
and rest first so im ready for the monsters

That would be why re-logging doesn't help you. When you rest it saves your location...which is with one foot wedged in the rocks. If you're stuck, don't do ANYTHING to save your location (rest, use diary functions). If you relog without saving your "stuck" location, you will pop back to the last place your location was saved at (usually at transition).

You're welcome.

frogofpeace · Post by **frogofpeace** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:17 pm

Does the Death Express not work when hostiles are around to prevent people porting out of battle? Maybe we could rethink that, if so - really, if you need to run from a fight, your gonna head for a blue strip anyway. Having DE not be effected by nearby hostiles should solve the problem.

I speak, of course, without considering that someone else has to do the work to make it happen. Just an idea.

Post by **Amoenotep** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:24 pm

i didn't even want DE...i figured if you wanted to go home you could always just die like everything else.

Lorkar1 · Post by **Lorkar1** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:08 pm

The option to goto bind point at the welcome screen is probably one of the better ideas I have heard.
Not exploitable I believe (though I may be wrong since I don't look for the exploits).
Allows those that get left in the planes due to party implosion a way out if they can't DE (by party implosion I mean real life callings...like the wife or kids). Just another two cents.

Post by **Zing** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:12 pm

The DE restriction was deliberately made to stop players commiting suicide right before they got naturally killed through play.

Bind point on login sounds feasible. I would need to be sure that logging out in this manner could not be used as an exploit though.

-BannyD- · Post by **-BannyD-** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:41 pm

Zing wrote:The DE restriction was deliberately made to stop players commiting suicide right before they got naturally killed through play.

Bind point on login sounds feasible. I would need to be sure that logging out in this manner could not be used as an exploit though.

relic being raided...log into main area, teleport away...log out and back in and go to bind point that is closer to the cradle.

in trouble in PvM and no one around that could raise you? log out and log back in, go to bind point.

someone needs help around your bind point and you are already buffed up? log out, long back in, go to bind point and be ready for battle.

hmm...having a hard time thinking of any other situations that could be exploited......work around those

so, option cannot be used when the cradle is being raided...script will not trigger if you leave while in combat?...all buffs are stripped and spells disabled thrown to 0 left per day after use...any other restrictions?

i would think the battle-logging problem would be hardest to prevent, and also the most useful/common of those exploits?