twinks

[MasterYoda]

ok this idea came from a little wow and the unique crafting system here in ns.

twink fights.

basicly you make a character.

you use nothing excpt gear. no pots, no kits, no scrolls, and any abilitys go.

here's the catch.....

you can only be level 19 max

now you can give them whatever gear they can wear. any weapon.

now the catch is if u craft and give up cheese builiding then you can use lvl 20 crafted gear at level 19.

dms could mabey make a set day to have twink fights.

put the arena to good use, and mabey the dm prize area for prizes from the tournys.

all this discusion about pvp and this and that. this is a set way to have straight pvp fights and have some set rules for it.

so.... discuss

[watchwood]

Other then forbidding abilities, I like it. It would be like a suped up soccer match.

[MasterYoda]

no forbiding of abilities.

basicly no heal pots, no resto pots, no bigs scrolls, only your chars spells abilities and feats.

if u craft u can get lvl 20 gear.

or if u want to take a hit against your gear u can cheese it out.

[n00bie]

then wouldnt Cleric RULE? they dont have to use pots, they dont need resto pots, no scrolls, but has Character Spell "Heal" and i think at Level 19 he would have had that Full HP heal skill. .

and since its plainly for PvP cleric. one mught just build a Full wisdom/con build? no pointon putting STR/dex/int since he will just be casting anyways.

but then again am not much of a PvP guy so i really dont see why ppl have a problem about one using heal pots/skill.

[MasterYoda]

ok u build a level 19 melee cleric and I will stomp it with a non healing class.....



there are lots of things that can beat a cleric.

pure mage?

dexing wm?

bard?

druid?

there are lots.
that's the whole point of this is its relativly even at that level and classes willing to sacrafice cheese for lvl 20 gear will have a edge as well

[n00bie]

i didnt say it was a melee cleric. but a caster cleric. thats why i said purely con/wis build. str wouldnt be much of a prob since at 10 or maybe just 8str. you can wear the fullplates + tower shields right? not much need on the Dex part since the armor will make up for its AC. though it will have lower reflex save. but i dont see much danger on having low reflex save.

with regards to skills. cleric are more on conce/spellcraft right. but no Discipline. so taking the last level and getting a class with discipline will cover up the clerics weak spot on knockdowns and such?

now what if the cleric is a Drow. wasnt a Drow build in with SR?

but like i said i am not much of a PvP guy so i really cant say as to what most player would have as a weak spot. was just poiting out that Cleric has Heal as a skill whilst others do not (not all but just some)

not to mention that Cleric has AoE skill that keeps damaging player per round i think (not sure). i was thnking of Storm of vengence. so basically you may be hitting the cleric but his AoE is hitting you as well. and all the clerc had to do was Heal(cast) himself. thus the non-healing toon is at a disadvantage? so to speak.

am not saying Clerics are UNSTOPPABLE. if yah dont want the use of pots and etc. using Heal should be entirely taken out. may it be pots or skill. since some ppl have the habit of twisting the rule. and would say a line much like this. "no, no, no!!! i didnt use pots or anything. am a cleric, i have a heal skill. skills are permited right?" or "no, no, no i didnt use Heal at all i however used Regenerate"

ok so Clerics can go melee too. so what he does is. when about to die. he goes invisible. then heal heal while hidden then goes back on teh duel again.

or how about Death + trickery. all he need to do is connect withthat skill. (anyways not to sure how phata killer is on this module yet havent tried it yet). if the toon is able to survive on phatakiller then good for him.