Summon power

CrazyJ · Post by **CrazyJ** » Tue May 16, 2006 3:30 pm

I know it says in the docs that the summons are in but need balancing... well, the Penguin (level 1 true neutral druid summon) is overpowered.
It's better in combat than my druid will be until at least level 4. All I have to do is summon in the little guided missile bird and watch the goblins die.

watchwood · Post by **watchwood** » Tue May 16, 2006 3:53 pm

There's seriously a penguin spell? I gotta try that.

kingfatzo · Post by **kingfatzo** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:03 pm

AHHHH stop !!! dont nerf summons any more than they have already been !

Blasphemy ! lock this for all things that are good in this world !

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:40 pm

Well it varies. At lower levels some of the neutral summons are superior to the good/evil summons, for example the penguin is better than the chickens, the gynosphinx is a trillion times better than the stupid bison.

But at higher level that shifts. The best neutral planar summons are slaad, and they do not compare to the power of a solar or even a balor.

CrazyJ · Post by **CrazyJ** » Tue May 16, 2006 5:47 pm

Well, since I'm going Shifter, I won't suffer from the high-level summon stinkiness.

Now if only they'd fix shifters a bit.

kingfatzo · Post by **kingfatzo** » Tue May 16, 2006 8:43 pm

i would take the penguin over any summon any day !

P. Fricebottle · Post by **P. Fricebottle** » Wed May 17, 2006 12:10 am

Oh yeah, the penguin is hilarious. However, I wouldn't say hes overpowered. You must be neutral, however, but thats not much of a price to pay (stupid paladins won't accept penguins in their "classy" society). I summoned one with one of those golden rods at level 32 with a rogue (Summon Creature I Rods) and the penguin had like 50 hp and crap, lol. He was hilarious, followed me around. It was really sad when those Dervishes ruthlessly shot arrows into him again...and again...and again. He actually survived the first two, the little penguin must of had Boromir's spirit

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kingfatzo · Post by **kingfatzo** » Wed May 17, 2006 12:36 am

P. Fricebottle wrote:(stupid paladins won't accept penguins in their "classy" society). .

the penguin is too good for the paladin !

Post by **Mr. O'Dearly** » Wed May 17, 2006 12:51 am

Ive been brought back from negative hp by the penguin.

But on topic, I don't think the summons are overpowered. The druid is a caster. Your summon is SUPPOSED to be a better fighter than you. After all, the penguin cant cast call lightning.(Though it would be hilarious if he could!)
Your summons at low lvls dont last very long. So its not so bad if theyre a little better than average.

P. Fricebottle · Post by **P. Fricebottle** » Wed May 17, 2006 6:59 pm

That happened too me too? Was your character a cleric? Because mine was and I got the notion that perhaps my summon was sharing abilities with me...