Loot update

Cthulhu Drega · Post by **Cthulhu Drega** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:19 pm

let me just say first off we love all you hard work on the new loot system.

that being said here are some more suggestions

armor seems to be dropping from the sky while i do prefer armor worth something vs a brass ring maybe a bit more of the other items like boots cloaks helms ect and a little less armor.

i havent played mutch since the latest tweak but ill update my findings as i test it out more. heres a oddball question why do we have blue pouder and invis potoins ? they both do the same thing seems a bit redundant to me. other than that the loot is lookin good to me so far keep up the good work

Post by **Yonwe** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:26 pm

As for the Blue Powder/Invis potion question, it's a question of which is more useful when: the potion lasts longer, but being a potion, it provokes and AoO from enemies in combat, while the powder is a flash-in-the-pan duration, yet can be used more safely nearby enemies.

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:46 pm

Hmm? I thought they were both the same really. Same spell, same level. Each potion weighs 0.1 while the powder weighs 0.3 with three charges, so even that works out the same. Only really difference is that you can stack 10 potions, but can't stack powder.

There's several spells in the game that have both potion and items:

Cure Light Wounds
Bull's Strength
Cat's Grace
Endurance
Eagle's Splendor
Bless
Aid (way way WAY too common IMO)
Invisibility
Barkskin
Mage Armor
Etheral Visage

PeregrineV · Post by **PeregrineV** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:50 pm

The potions are self or summon only, the items can be cast on others.

CrazyJ · Post by **CrazyJ** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:54 pm

I know of lots of dropped armors and weapons. A few helms... I have seen almost NO dropped boots, gloves, belts, etc. aside from generic store items.

kingfatzo · Post by **kingfatzo** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:07 pm

Cthulhu Drega wrote:let me just say first off we love all you hard work on the new loot system.

that being said here are some more suggestions

armor seems to be dropping from the sky while i do prefer armor worth something vs a brass ring maybe a bit more of the other items like boots cloaks helms ect and a little less armor.

i havent played mutch since the latest tweak but ill update my findings as i test it out more. heres a oddball question why do we have blue pouder and invis potoins ? they both do the same thing seems a bit redundant to me. other than that the loot is lookin good to me so far keep up the good work

Yes, i smashed up a few screens of bandits today (in hopes of finding a coffer which i didnt) , but i too noticed a rather exorbitant ammount of armor dropping , alot more than usual, and a bit less of other stuff .... well i must say thanks for your efforts, it is getting better but not quite ideal yet

Post by **Mr. O'Dearly** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:57 pm

well all that makes sense... each enemy you kill is wearing armor and you get it when it drops... They're not dropping boots cause... well... they must be barefoot.

Cthulhu Drega · Post by **Cthulhu Drega** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:14 pm

well that woud be logical but they are dropping like 2 and 3 sets each

kingfatzo · Post by **kingfatzo** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:54 pm

Cthulhu Drega wrote:well that woud be logical but they are dropping like 2 and 3 sets each

Maybe they wear different armors on different days

I am also finding different colored armor, colors i have never seen, looks cool...

Post by **shield** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:21 am

I was on as a player the yesterday, and i was seeing things like boots and cloaks drop. It was looking normal to me. However I need to play more before I make any changes to get a better idea of what my next set of changes will be.

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:24 pm

I think I mentioned this before, but no duplication of items on mobs would be good. I like a nice variety of loot, we don't really need stuff dropping 3-4 heal kits, 2 or 3 sets of armor, 2 or 3 of the same potions, 2 or 3 thieves tools, etc.

Haven't really seen how this is working on high level mobs yet, I spent most of the day yesterday leveling a new character and defending our relic, but the system looks pretty good so far up to at least ogres.

Also, save dye drops at least for mid teens and higher. These can be sold for quite a bit of money, so it's best to keep them unavailable or very very rare before level 10 so noobs don't get too much easy money.

PeregrineV · Post by **PeregrineV** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:58 pm

It looks like 1 dye= 1 heal potion. Both run 10,000 gold IIRC.

I don't mind the healing kits, as it lets you keep on the "road" longer, without having to resupply as often.

The drops as of last night were much more balanced than ever since the first changes were made. Drops were not constant, and the size and quantity varied.

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:05 pm

Yeah, dye kits have a sale value of 10k gold, that's why I said limit drops to at least level 10 or so.

Myrdyr · Post by **Myrdyr** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:38 pm

Containers (coffers, boxes, etc) seem to be much rarer all of a sudden. Considering they're supposed to be used to reduce lag, shouldnt they be appearing more frequently?

P. Fricebottle · Post by **P. Fricebottle** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:05 pm

Are you serious? I've found 8, and all on one character.

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