1,5,9,13,16?,20?

T. Rick Of The Light · Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:53 pm

All the original nwn weapons are available from merchants in level 1, 5, 9, and 13 versions.

For the sake of "balance" shouldn't level 16 and 20 versions of all the weapons be out there somewhere?

In this way a player could confidantly focus on any weapon.

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:21 pm

There are level 16 versions of everything as far as I know...
There are also level 20 versions of *almost* everything too...

What would be cool is if they could align the crafting levels with item levels...

Death Dealer1 · Post by **Death Dealer1** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:26 pm

the original plan is that eventually all weapons would have the same "type" of weapon at lvl 40....i.e. YDB from ns3 days except instead of just being a [censored] sword it could be any weapon. just like the tritons on ns3.5

Kromix · Post by **Kromix** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:44 pm

but with diff elemental damages and on hits, but basically the same

P. Fricebottle · Post by **P. Fricebottle** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:32 pm

What are we communists? EVERYTHING MUST BE THE SAME, WE ARE ALL EQUAL AND NO ONE IS NO GREATER OR NO LESS! ANYONE WHO IS DIFFERENT IN MORE THAN TWO WAYS WILL BE SHOT DOWN! Lol, sorry. But its kinda sounding a little too samey here. Be cool for the crappy based items (clubs, dire mace, light flails, etc.) to have the BEST type out there thats awesome to get some players encouraged to use those. Because, well, whens the last time you've seen someone use a light flail?

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:13 pm

No one uses light flail because it's base properties are mediocre...
Why use a light flail when at same time you could use warhammer and get an extra X on your crits?

Personally I think the current system works very well. The general equality between items encourages variation.
However lesser base items could have that little bit extra to make them used more. The zon club is a good example.

P. Fricebottle · Post by **P. Fricebottle** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:39 pm

JesterOI wrote:No one uses light flail because it's base properties are mediocre...
Why use a light flail when at same time you could use warhammer and get an extra X on your crits?

I am very well aware of that Jester, thats why I thought it would be interesting to take items with a crap base item and make one really good like the Zon club to see if players would sacrifice the crits for.

Death Dealer1 · Post by **Death Dealer1** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:43 pm

nope, they didn't....everyone has the only +5 weapon.

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:48 pm

Personally I carry the +5 battleaxe on my warrior anyway even if they don't ahve feats for battleaxe... the +5 ability to skip dmg reduction more than makes up for the no feats when fighting casters.
Blindfight & +5 zon axe is so refreshing vs casters.

kingfatzo · Post by **kingfatzo** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:23 am

P. Fricebottle wrote:What are we communists? EVERYTHING MUST BE THE SAME, WE ARE ALL EQUAL AND NO ONE IS NO GREATER OR NO LESS! ANYONE WHO IS DIFFERENT IN MORE THAN TWO WAYS WILL BE SHOT DOWN! Lol, sorry. But its kinda sounding a little too samey here. Be cool for the crappy based items (clubs, dire mace, light flails, etc.) to have the BEST type out there thats awesome to get some players encouraged to use those. Because, well, whens the last time you've seen someone use a light flail?

" .... so come, comrades rally, and the last fight let us face: the Internationale, unites the human race ! "

ya dont get much more "communal" than that

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:26 am

Lotsa people don't like socialism... they'd rather be anti-social... no wonder we gots so many problems these days!

seriouslynow · Post by **seriouslynow** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:42 am

I like the variation, even if it causes some problems for newbs to know what weapon to focus in. Other places I've played seemed to have a few weapons that were simply the best and accordingly every toon there was either carrying one or farming for it. I actually carry a couple weapons because there are instances where it's just situationally more useful than my main weapon. That's a good thing!
As for some weapons with crummy base stats getting a boost, that just adds to the fun.

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:51 am

I generally avoid slash weapons... There seems to be a lot of slash resist out there.
I just started a fighter for armorcrafting and decided to go with a long sword to try it out since i'm onyl levelling to 19. Damn there is a lot of slash resist out there.
No wonder I stick with rapier/warhammer or shortsword/mace for little ppl.

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:45 am

JesterOI wrote:I generally avoid slash weapons... There seems to be a lot of slash resist out there.
I just started a fighter for armorcrafting and decided to go with a long sword to try it out since i'm onyl levelling to 19. Damn there is a lot of slash resist out there.
No wonder I stick with rapier/warhammer or shortsword/mace for little ppl.

I thought you already had all the crafters already.

Anyway, yeah, it's not exactly a secret that everything around here has mad slashing resist. I think it's good that more bludgeoning/piercing resist armors have been added recently to balance things out a bit, but it's know that if you're playing a tank type, you should carry different types of weapons.

P. Fricebottle · Post by **P. Fricebottle** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:17 pm

Yeah, good for archers that not much creatures have piecing resisist...they need all the help they can get.