DC100 Web spell

Zhorn · Post by **Zhorn** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 6:56 pm

I've gotten quite a taste for using the DC100 shadow web spell while I hold melee PC's in place and wait for them to fail their save vs Death Magic. It also works a treat for racking up LOTS of xp by sticking big clumps of guards/gnolls/etc in place then nuking the crap out of them all at once.

It just seems a little unfair. I am wondering if this spell needs fixing? The "Shadow" versions of spells are Illusions? Therefore I would think that immunity:mind spells (i.e. Clarity, Mind Blank, etc) would stop people getting held by these webs. Is that the case? I haven't tested it out but I would hope that is the case.

I was thinking either the DC should be lowered OR immunity:mind spells should stop this from working. I am guessing Freedom of Movement stops this spell as well.

Having said that.... PHEAR MY DC100 WEB AND FINGERS OF DEATH + WAILS!!!!!!! Muahahahaha!

All we need now is either a PvP scoreboard or a global announcement like on Dark Sun PW where it goes "< X > has killed < Y >!"

Epistaxis · Post by **Epistaxis** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 1:49 am

That is fixed in 1.64. You will only be able to use that strategic for a short time as the patch is finished soon, after this all sub menu spells DC's should be correct.

You are only exploiting a bug in the game, guess the PC's you have used it on is a bit mad at you :wink:

Zhorn · Post by **Zhorn** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:22 am

Ah well, back to using Bigbies I guess!!

Phear the Big Green Fist of Doom!

< Insert Evil Laughter >

(Evil sounds better than Lawful Neutral....).

Isn't there a bug in general with all the Shadow spells? Something about them totally ignoring Spell Resistance???

Epistaxis · Post by **Epistaxis** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:44 am

You are probably right. Have only read that the DC's calcullated for the sub level spells like shadow web were corrected in the comming patch. Not sure if this also applies to the spell resistance or if it is intentional

Hehheee, my bard will try to stay away from you, he is scared of the bigbys. Bad experiences in his early life

Post by **TheBestDeception** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:35 pm

Epistaxis wrote:Hehheee, my bard will try to stay away from you, he is scared of the bigbys. Bad experiences in his early life

Ya know...you can banish the bigby's..

Spura · Post by **Spura** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:53 am

banish? Banish spell work on summons and outsider and I don't think bigby is even a creature.

Danhalen · Post by **Danhalen** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:40 am

yes, banish works. i've seen it many times. watch a duel between Black Willow and Slave Dissection, everytime BW casts a Bigby, Dissection banishes it. makes for a fun fight to watch.

Post by **TheBestDeception** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:46 am

Lokey wrote:They're rewritten (Bio code was pitiful--see comments above about the impossible to beat str check: it actually comapares d20 + caster stat + hand bonus v. d20 + casters str...who let these guys write a game).

Function should be more like description. Freedom doesn't apply, think of the hand like a normal NPC. Oh, banish and dismissal will pop hands as well. They still need work though.

The trick with banish is that (like all spells) you have to be standing...if the bigby's continually knocks you down, then you might as well forget about it.

deathdearler1 · Post by **deathdearler1** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:22 pm

yeah, if u can't stand to do anything than u certainly can't cast banish. that is why i just hit dissection with a dc 100 web and igms him to death. he says cheesy i say survival. i usually walk away.

Mad_Bovine · Post by **Mad_Bovine** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:00 pm

Shadow variant spells are from a completely different form of magic, hence SR does not matter with them. The Shadow Weave was created by Shar as a way of ursurping power from Mystra... yadda yadda yadda

ANyways, Shadow variant spells are not normal magic spells, hence normal magic protection does not apply.

Post by **Netrom.dk** » Sat Oct 02, 2004 6:18 am

The DC 100 web is a bug, and using it for your own advantage is considered EXPLOITING, so dont that, you never know who's watching, or who your casting ti at.

SwLord · Post by **SwLord** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 3:58 am

1.64 imm to parylsis blocks bigby's 'holding' spells (aka freedom)

Zhorn · Post by **Zhorn** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 7:50 pm

OMG roll on 1.64 patch!!!!!!!

deathdearler1 · Post by **deathdearler1** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:57 am

yes i know using the bugged web is exploitation. yes i know i shouldn't do it, however i only cast the web on myself. that way if anyone wishes to do me harm is caught by their own hostility, then i kill them cuz they're stuck and bothering me. :twisted:

AndrewCarr · Post by **AndrewCarr** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:09 pm

Zhorn wrote:OMG roll on 1.64 patch!!!!!!!

Holy crap, I was hoping that would happen for awhile. It'll be more imbalanced in favor of ppl with freedom now, but at least it won't be so ghey.