Limited haste boots

[ATI]

Dear heavens. We need to have boots that give haste.... 3 times, 5 times a day. I don't know WHY the devs won't put this in, but put an ILR of lvl 12 on the boots, make that the ONLY thing on the boots, and suddenly people will be happier with having to travel so far on the servers.

Please....why does limited haste destroy this game? And don't give me the NS3 return crap... that doesn't cut it with me. Limited haste should exist, just to help people get the heck around the server. In fact...maybe make the haste boots provide ridiculous penalities, like lvl drain, curse, decrease all stats by 3, or maybe increased damage to all types by 40 percent. That way, you can ONLY use the haste boots to run around...and nothing more. Please people....just banning haste items outright is pointless, and lacks ingenuity. THere are ways to make it so that haste boots ONLY allow people to move around quicker, and nothing else. IF you want I'll give you examples for right now though...limited haste boots, for 2.5 million gold would really be useful right now.

Oh and just saying the devs said NO doesn't cut it either. Lets explore why the devs said NO and then come up with ways to fix the problems with LIMITED Haste boots.

THanks for the inputs

[Brennan068]

There are potions of haste and I really know what you mean here

I popped down one when I was in a hurry to help someone quite a ways away and holy mackeral do you ever notice the speed difference when you are used to plodding along at normal speeds.

The devs already have timers on items, I'd suggest boots that cast haste as per the spell (or the potion) 3 times per 24 hour game time cycle. Lvl 12 ILR would be fair here.

The only problem with this would be people hording boots to be able to swap pairs and basically be perma-hasted. I agree with the devs decision to not allow for perma-haste.

[Sakad the II]

I could see why people swithcing boots for a perma Haste fix is a problem, but Ati does have a point with the haste problems. But really is there anyone out that would buy several pairs 2.5 Million dollar boots so that have a perma haste? Maybe the devs can make something that prevents them from buying or having more than one pair

[EvanFallen]

I have been considering this for a little while:

On the equip of a pair of boots, the player should have an increase in speed.

LvL 1: 10%
LvL 5: 15%
LvL 9: 20%
LvL 11: 30%
LvL 16: 40%
LvL 20: 50%

Don't even include a feat, just by wearing a pair of boots, the player's feet are greatly protected from the harsh ground enabling them to walk and run faster. As their experience grows, their sure-footness increases enabling them to move at even greater speeds.

As well, perhaps we could have bonus's of 5% increase in speed per two attribute points of dexterity.

We would have to be sure to take care that the boot's increases in speed don't stack with monk speed or haste and that the dex bonus does stack with boots and monk speed, but not haste.

[JesterOI]

Exactly, why not just a pair of boots that increase movement speed when you put them on.

[Epistaxis]

If you want to travel faster go find a bard and join up with him. He can cast haste and expedetious retreat a allot of times each day. My bard allways travells hasted at 150% speed

I guess this is a good reason for peoble to join up and take advantage of each classes strength when working togheter. It is your own choise to loose the benefits like haste if you are unable to cast the spell yourself and prefer to go solo

[Denort]

I am personally against any item that gives permanent haste. Haste is one of the big benefits of the various caster classes that get it. The extra speed and manoverability is one of the advantages of the class. Asking for haste items is liking asking for a complete set of weapons with specialisation and epic specialisation on them. If you want haste, put the class levels in that give you haste.
Now items with charges of Exp. Retreat on the otherhand would be a way of getting around faster without handing out one of the best spells to any old person who can tie a pair of boot laces.
As for long distance transportation, maybe the rift shards could be used as a transit system. Limit it so you can only travel between your currently bound rift and the rift in your capital city. As well as the convenience it might also encourage people to "portal" back to their capital when its under siege.

[Sakad the II]

As for the bard it is does work with expedtious retreat but it does gets annoying becuase of arcance spell failure, then when I use haste it only last acouple of seconds longer then what Expeditous retreat. I should make haste potions

[Mad_Bovine]

I like no perma-haste items. It actually makes a specific Epic level feat worth taking, Blinding speed. If they ever do make a perma haste item I would hope it would be dropped by an incredibly hard boss monster that would have to be tackled by a large party and only respawns once per actual day.

On the other hand, for travelling purposes maybe they could find some way to include a horse or some form of other transit to increase travel speed..... perhaps charged items that you can burn a charge to create a drop zone and then if you use anohter charge you are t-ported to a random spot in the drop zone (No putting drop zones inside enemy cities)

[Bob]

For travelling purposes, Expeditious Retreat use items would suffice.

Another prospect for boosting effects from faction jobs - extending the duration of Blinding Speed?

[ATI]

For heavens, why not just make limited haste boots, with extreme drawbacks for using them. For example....most people love haste for its ability to give you an extra attack, and some increased defense. But if limited haste boots made you attack go down by 10 and other things, that would balance out the haste abuse.

[JesterOI]

If you want to travel faster go find a bard and join up with him. He can cast haste and expedetious retreat a allot of times each day. My bard allways travells hasted at 150% speed

I guess this is a good reason for peoble to join up and take advantage of each classes strength when working togheter. It is your own choise to loose the benefits like haste if you are unable to cast the spell yourself and prefer to go solo

Good call.

[Denort]

For heavens, why not just make limited haste boots, with extreme drawbacks for using them. For example....most people love haste for its ability to give you an extra attack, and some increased defense. But if limited haste boots made you attack go down by 10 and other things, that would balance out the haste abuse.

Its too easy to swap boots in and out during combat. IF there were to be any haste items (no, no, no, please no!) they would want to be on robes. Robes with -5 armor AC, 100% vulnerability to everything, -50 discipline and concentration, -12 Con and haste. Use them to travel but pray you do not get caught in combat while wearing them. Since they are armour you can not swap them in or out while fighting.

[Lokey]

For heavens, why not just make limited haste boots, with extreme drawbacks for using them. For example....most people love haste for its ability to give you an extra attack, and some increased defense. But if limited haste boots made you attack go down by 10 and other things, that would balance out the haste abuse.

If all stats went down by 50 and you had a 50% chance of dying outright it still wouldn't balance out the 2 spells per round of 3.0 haste, lol.

If you want to move around faster that either means you aren't having fun where you are or you want to abuse the game engine. Either case means you should look for a module you'll have fun playing/exploiting.

[JesterOI]

2nd Ed. haste was crazy for melee players, double # of attacks