Don't be fooled by what your character sheet says.

Delisha Zrazorian · Post by **Delisha Zrazorian** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:44 am

any way the character sheet can be fixed to reflect the truth?

Rufio · Post by **Rufio** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:17 pm

I really doubt it. There aren't a whole lot of cases where this applies anyways. The ones that I can think of at the moment are:

-small stature ab, ac, and hide bonuses not showing
-being able to exceed the +20 ab cap on the character sheet but not in-game
-being able to exceed the +20 saves cap with CoT sacred defense on the character sheet but not in-game (sacred defense applies to the +20 cap. It is also the only thing that will cause your sheet to read higher than the +20 cap)
-AC, saves, or skill bonuses vs races, alignments, and spell types not showing
-bane of enemies bonues not showing
-AC from the dodge feat not showing

The character sheet isn't wildly inaccurate, but it is always best to run in-game tests to be sure.

Post by **mining** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:04 pm

Rufio, you also forgot:

Dragons have wildly misleading AB, most character sheets fail pretty badly at reporting your actuals for AB/AC for around half of builds, etc.

Daral0085 · Post by **Daral0085** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:08 pm

Dodge feat is situational, so it makes sense to not show it. And what about job bonuses on skin? I thought I didn't see job hide bonus on my SDs, since I'm always 4 or 8 below what I have calculated before hand (4 for size, 4 for job).

Post by **Lokey** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:31 pm

You'd probably need something client side to fix, but not entirely certain. I.e. there's a lot of changes you can make server side and the client will still show what local files say it should show while the server uses its numbers.

Rufio · Post by **Rufio** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:41 pm

Yeah, I know the dodge feat makes sense, but it is often forgotten since it doesn't show on the sheet. Same with the bonuses vs alignments and races. I thought I'd include it on the list anyways.

And yeah, you are right about dragon AB. Actually, the character sheet of anything with a natural attack is often wildly misleading because it doesn't show the magical bonus of the natural attack. Also, you get into some funky things with summon character sheets where bonuses from buffs do not show up if the summon also has any bonuses from necro/conjuration feats or other sources.

Also, the job thing might be because job bonuses don't stack with racial skin bonuses if I recall correctly, so on a svirfneblin I don't think the +2 Svirf hide bonus stacks with any job bonuses to hide.

Alkapwn · Post by **Alkapwn** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:50 am

The answer is always 42

Daltian · Post by **Daltian** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:17 am

Alkapwn wrote:The answer is always 42

But what is the question?

weasel423 · Post by **weasel423** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:08 pm

Daltian wrote:
Alkapwn wrote:The answer is always 42
But what is the question?

Does not matter

Bargeld · Post by **Bargeld** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:10 pm

Daltian wrote:
Alkapwn wrote:The answer is always 42
But what is the question?

What is the answer to life, the universe, and everything?

Duh.

https://www.google.com/search?source=ig ... TGUcx6BtbM

Post by **VagaStorm** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:51 pm

Ever tried to register a new forum account the laste few years? It's also the answer to keeping spambots out

Daltian · Post by **Daltian** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:50 pm

Bargeld wrote:
Daltian wrote:
Alkapwn wrote:The answer is always 42
But what is the question?
What is the answer to life, the universe, and everything?

Duh.

https://www.google.com/search?source=ig ... TGUcx6BtbM

Have you read the book? After they find the answer to life the universe and everything to be 42 they realise it doesn't mean anything without knowing the question.

Bargeld · Post by **Bargeld** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:31 pm

I admit it, 2 levels deep into HHG is farther than my mind can go.

frogofpeace · Post by **frogofpeace** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:41 pm

You must not have taken your towel.

Opie Crimeria · Post by **Opie Crimeria** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:49 pm

wise words from a true rogue

Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when my cleric implodes your toon.
- Mel Brooks

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