Pure Bard need love

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Pure Bard need love

Post by Devillord »

The pure bards not any advantage of class vs 30bard/5bg/5rog
And i think pure bards cost too much for the +4 song.
Dont you think pure bard should got some pure class bonus?such as a token to cast a special ability or other somethings.
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Re: Pure Bard need love

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You get +10 spell pen for dirge.
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Re: Pure Bard need love

Post by BlkMamba »

I dunno, my pure bard does decent, its not the best melee toon but he can hold his own
and he's an excellent support toon, which is what there suppose to be to begin with
and you can do some pretty amazing things with pure bard.

Now would i mind a boost, of course not
but do i feel its needed, meh, not really

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Re: Pure Bard need love

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Why did so few people built the pure bards in the server?
The bards that i saw were almost all 30bard/XX/XX
I asked them why not pure bard,they told me why pure?
I didnt know how to answered them.......why pure?
Just for the +10 spell Penetration of drige or +3 upgrade to +4 song ?
I'd like to cast mass haste in the party.
I hope the pure bard should be the 1st of supporter but same with 30 bard.
The 30 bards's song almost aren't different from pure bards's song in the party at all.
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Re: Pure Bard need love

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Pure bards are great. +1 ab/ac is a big deal when you consider that it buffs the entire party and it means you have an additional -1 ab/ac curse against every enemy. I know it might not sound like much, but that is a big deal mathematically for everyone's hit rate in melee. A usable dirge is also quite the perk. I think the reason for 30-35 bard multiclass builds is just to have some variety. People (me especially) like having their own unique builds, and multiclassing is the best way to do that.

There used to be pure bard bonuses, but what happened is that no one built anything but pure bards. It didn't make sense mechanically to build anything else. I like it better now that we have more variety.
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Re: Pure Bard need love

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Rufio wrote:Pure bards are great. +1 ab/ac is a big deal when you consider that it buffs the entire party and it means you have an additional -1 ab/ac curse against every enemy. I know it might not sound like much, but that is a big deal mathematically for everyone's hit rate in melee. A usable dirge is also quite the perk. I think the reason for 30-35 bard multiclass builds is just to have some variety. People (me especially) like having their own unique builds, and multiclassing is the best way to do that.

There used to be pure bard bonuses, but what happened is that no one built anything but pure bards. It didn't make sense mechanically to build anything else. I like it better now that we have more variety.

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Re: Pure Bard need love

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Devillord wrote:Why did so few people built the pure bards in the server?
The bards that i saw were almost all 30bard/XX/XX
I asked them why not pure bard,they told me why pure?
I believe that those who told you "why pure" have misled you. Almost every player I know either has a pure bard, or has someone they party with who runs a pure bard. I have a pure bard, plans to build a second, and access to two more that my brother in law built. Every SyN/FoN team was built with a pure bard in mind to support them. So few you say? Why are there so many?
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I made my pure bard right after the nerf - a +2 AB/AC advantage over a party with a 30 bard is awesome.
Bargeld wrote:Overall, I think most would agree that a pure rogue is probably the worst build on the server.

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mining wrote:I made my pure bard right after the nerf - a +2 AB/AC advantage over a party with a 30 bard is awesome.
for mostly people, +6 AB/AC is already very wondful ,let them can touch the mobs, but pure bard only the advantage of getiing more 2 AB/AC?
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Ok, PVM? Not a huge deal. PVP? Huge deal. 10% more chance to hit, 10% more chance to not get hit - thats, what, a 19% improvement if you only consider it a multiplicative improvement.
Bargeld wrote:Overall, I think most would agree that a pure rogue is probably the worst build on the server.

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mining wrote:Ok, PVM? Not a huge deal. PVP? Huge deal. 10% more chance to hit, 10% more chance to not get hit - thats, what, a 19% improvement if you only consider it a multiplicative improvement.
really huge deal for PVP? i dont think so.thats lvl 6 spells, cant be still spells . for cast it , we have to wear robe use small shield.but when you cast it , your target already run away from you. peope not the mobs , they are impossible stant there wait for you cast spells except for the spells can be cast like curse song etc lol
any other caster's energy brust maybe more easier to do it than a bard.
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Re: Pure Bard need love

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you buff the evil turn, then its works more better than bard's curse song, where is my place in a party now?
As a pure supporter, we are not do better than a 30bard/XX/XX and a 35cleric/5bg.......how to ?
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Re: Pure Bard need love

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Re: Pure Bard need love

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Pure Bards are not the build that kills everything there the build that lets your party kill everything.
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Tsavong wrote:Pure Bards are not the build that kills everything there the build that lets your party kill everything.
where's the like button.

Also, Rufio's post made me lol excessively and wake people up.
Bargeld wrote:Overall, I think most would agree that a pure rogue is probably the worst build on the server.

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