Rakshasa nerf

[Mixtli]

Not really to start a discussion... we said what we had on irc. Simply for new players.
Change log was edited, still most look at wiki.

- Rakasha no longer has Ice Storm as a spell.

And one question for the staff.
Will it be replaced with something, or just stay on breach / true seeing spells?

A simple yes/no will do.
Some of us were about to make a shifter, so we'd like to know if we should wait.

[Daltian]

Well, being unable to either maximize or empower that ice storm and impossible not to be stunned by bigsby or remove it in any way, it was quite useless form anyway. Ice storm did give it some function but it isn't a big loss anyway. Rask form was quite useless before the nerf and its only more useless now. Was always easy to kill for pretty much any build (including all arcane casters that were believe it or not most successful at killing it), now it wont be able to do any damage while being killed and thats all.

[Lokey]

Requires a 100% guaranteed balanced spell selection plus something that doesn't take a lot to implement plus 0 testing because that's all I'll feel like doing. So gone probably gone forever.

[Mixtli]

Not happy with it of course, but at least we know what to do, or better yet, not to do.

[Daltian]

My suggestion for spells:

Dissmissal, Greater Spell Breach, Prismatic Spray.

[Carejo]

Give them "Polymorph: Hogre", Lokey.

[Daltian]

Give them "Polymorph: Hogre", Lokey.

Hehe, I spilled my drink.

[mining]

My suggestion for spells for Rakshasha;

Greater Dispel, bigby 7, dismissal and greater spell breach. The most potent offensive spell there is bigby 7, which is a solid spell that doesn't instakill stuff or even do damage.

[Shadowalker]

If the Rakasha was such a threat.. why are there no LA Raks?

Other than they are extremely limited and only effective in cordinated groups and occasion gurrella warfare. (surprising a raiding party buffing, really... the cabin.. again?)

The timing of this 'adjustment' is as odd as the fact that its the second Unannounced shifter change in the last month.


PS. Dont worry Tep, well aware that you hate all players, but without us.. just who would worship you?

[mining]

(surprising a raiding party buffing, really... the cabin.. again?)

And even that wasn't a clear cut 'Rak destroy all' situation... True story, massed toons die to any spammed AoE! I know, its crazy, right!

I mean, AoE damage is amazingly bad hitting 1 target, but when you get to 5, its just a matter of how much damage the 5 can put out, and pull in.

[Shadowalker]

(surprising a raiding party buffing, really... the cabin.. again?)

And even that wasn't a clear cut 'Rak destroy all' situation... True story, massed toons die to any spammed AoE! I know, its crazy, right!

I mean, AoE damage is amazingly bad hitting 1 target, but when you get to 5, its just a matter of how much damage the 5 can put out, and pull in.

Your to modest Mining.. if it wasnt for your Rozdec coming in and healing twig.. not to mention Mc Ninja surprise appearinace, they would not have been defeated.

[mining]

(surprising a raiding party buffing, really... the cabin.. again?)

And even that wasn't a clear cut 'Rak destroy all' situation... True story, massed toons die to any spammed AoE! I know, its crazy, right!

I mean, AoE damage is amazingly bad hitting 1 target, but when you get to 5, its just a matter of how much damage the 5 can put out, and pull in.

Your to modest Mining.. if it wasnt for your Rozdec coming in and healing twig.. not to mention Mc Ninja surprise appearinace, they would not have been defeated.

True enough. Also, its Roz-su-dek .

Anyways, stop doing stupid stuff. If you crowd everyone around, say, a DC 900 SoV casted by G1, you dead. If you have a ton of low fort folks, and you crowd around when there's a wailer around, well...

Also, to put it in perspective, its pretty comparable to removing dragon shape from RDD, or summon from PM, for the pure rak builds. For the half-half builds, its like knocking off the DI from DWD, that and the sneak immune etc.

[Daltian]

To be honest, raksaha was not really any good anyway. So it being nerfed doesn't change much. Makes you sad, yes, but it isn't a big loss.
No reason to shed any more tears over it as you all know that once something is nerfed there is no going back.

[Alkapwn]

Putting a X uses /day on the Rak's ice storm, maybe a good idea in lew of utter nerfville? I have no idea really. Something to make me stop wanting to kill them so much. They make my rotting carcass taste like popsicles

[Daltian]

X uses icestorm would make raksaha laughable. Since it cant be maximized or empowered it already does really low damage (been killed by mages that were casting their icestorm on me while i was casting my icestorm on them many times in Raksaha form, they would kill me while still only injured although I had 2 times their health). The fact that Raksaha can go forever changes nothing in PvP.. In PvE its different story, Raksaha can kill some stuff some other classes can't, but I doub't that was a reason for nerf in the first place since several other classes can do it even better.

Actually, forget about caster raksaha, just give him this for spell repertoire: Dissmissal, Greater Spell Breach, Tensers Transformation. Club is terrible weapon anyway so I am sure no one would mind that too much.