Cleric domain: war

[Eldaquen]

Recently I have been reviewing domains available in other factions and realized that all factions except The Circle have War Domain. Since Aetheria is a world at war which has been prepetual through the ages I am at a loss as to why The Circle is without this domain. I realize some people will claim the reason is that hippies are peaceful and not warlike. But The Circle is not the 1960's hippies, its a faction of created by a group of druids pulling like minded folk together in the forests of Melencia. The Aetherian storyline states "The Circle have taken it on themselves to rid the world of the arcane menace. " That attitude is not one of peace but more in line with war. Lacking War Domain is just another area that The Circle has been at a disadvantage to other rival factions and is unbalancing the server.

To expand on the Aetherian storyline point: Ragnar's Kin storyline states "The dwarves care little about conquest and domination, being especially unconcerned with developments above ground, and are content with ensuring the security of their faction and the mining of valuable ores found deep underground." From storyline the Ragnar's Kin background is less warlike than The Circles, yet RK has War Domain.

Please consider adding war domain to The Circle.

[Jacks Revenge]

I think for Balancing purposes the domains are fine.

[Eldaquen]

Why is that?

[Bargeld]

Strength domain is better for non-dedicated clerics anyway... Dedicated war clerics cap solo. For like 8 rounds.

[Eldaquen]

How is it balanced when only 1 faction does not have war domain and all the others do?

[Alkapwn]

All factions have domain restrictions. I think the reason being in TC is that "War" is not necessarily a trait of the neutral loving treehuggers just as "Good" is not a trait of SL. MA having the most domain restrictions they stil manage to put out decent clerics.

[Daral0085]

Well TC as a whole has the worst clerical domains out of any faction. No real doubt about it. MA is possibly the second most restricted, but that's silly because they get: war, trickery, travel, magic and knowledge, all of which are very strong domains. Overall, I think it's silly to say that MA is the most restricted. They might be more restricted in a purely numerical sense, but TC is loaded with 99% useless domains like fire/earth/water/air/sun/destruction/plant.

Compared to that, TC gets travel, heal, and...... protection? animal? fire??? Seriously, if you think magic domain or war domain are worse than fire or animal, then you really don't know a whole lot about clerical domain powers, to put it bluntly.

I admit that MA is a very restricted faction overall, but in terms of clerical domains, nobody is worse than TC.

In fairness, NC gets possibly the best domain selection of any faction. Therefore I am not going to build a TC cleric and will only build NC clerics. It's pretty simple logic, but I'm sure some people want to build TC clerics, and those people are greeted by a very poor domain selection.

[Bargeld]

Oops, in my earlier post, I actually meant Animal domain, not Strength. Alka and I (and others) have actually had a couple brief discussions on that exact comparison. Allow me to requote myself correctly:

Animal domain is better for non-dedicated clerics anyway... Dedicated war clerics cap solo. For like 8 rounds.

Lets see, Cat's and True Sight vs Cats and 1x per day AB cap ability (for like 8 rounds). I suppose you could make use of either, but they are pretty comparable IMO.

Lack of MA elemental domains prevents a lot of possible race/class combinations. TC can turn any of their races into a cleric.

Bah, these are all specifics. I'll give you War domain if you give me rangers.

[mining]

For TC clerics, good domains are travel, healing, animal and protection, though that last one is just for gimmicks. We do have the best (or one of the best) DF types though.

--- You also lose AoV, Bargeld. An extra +2 counts hugely .

[Daral0085]

Oops, in my earlier post, I actually meant Animal domain, not Strength. Alka and I (and others) have actually had a couple brief discussions on that exact comparison. Allow me to requote myself correctly:

Animal domain is better for non-dedicated clerics anyway... Dedicated war clerics cap solo. For like 8 rounds.

Lets see, Cat's and True Sight vs Cats and 1x per day AB cap ability (for like 8 rounds). I suppose you could make use of either, but they are pretty comparable IMO.

Lack of MA elemental domains prevents a lot of possible race/class combinations. TC can turn any of their races into a cleric.

Bah, these are all specifics. I'll give you War domain if you give me rangers.

War domain is about cats + AoV, which is quite good, especially for battle clerics. The war domain power isn't a big deal. In all fairness, I could see animal domain as being OK also, but TS is a standard clerical spell anyway, so the animal TS is only useful in very specific builds. And it's duration is very short if you're a low caster level build. TS helms would be nearly as good.

So war domain is better for buffing stats, and for spotters knowledge domain is far superior to animal, for C/C access. Both of these are available to MA, hint hint.

As for losing race/class combos, most of the * Genasi don't make good clerics anyway, for a bunch of reasons. One reason is that you have to throw away a clerical domain to get it.

And forget you and your trade. I'll give you rangers if you give us arcane classes. War domain isn't nearly worth the same as rangers. Even without ranger/assassin combo, ranger is an incredibly strong class and worth far more than a single pithy clerical domain.

(or to make Frog happy, Rogues in NC)

[Jacks Revenge]

Someone Call the WAAAAAAmbulance for TC's lack of war domain, and the recent nerf, As you guys said to us when they changed EMA, RDD, etc, It happens Move on.

[mining]

Someone Call the WAAAAAAmbulance for TC's lack of war domain, and the recent nerf, As you guys said to us when they changed EMA, RDD, etc, It happens Move on.

Wasn't there still, like, a 20 page thread or something?

[Amoenotep]

i think i locked it because it got dumb.

war domain to TC....you have alot of domains already and they aren't as horrible as you think. your just not using them to their potential.

dwarves and war domain....dwarves like to fight. its what they do.

elves like to sing songs and be ambiguously gendered.

[mining]

i think i locked it because it got dumb.

be ambiguously gendered.

Huzzah for ambiguous elven gender!

[Rufio]

There are some TC domains that have some ok stuff, but other domains have nearly the same things and do it better. All of my cleric builds are done in NC because of domain issues. Not really too bent out of shape about it, war domain is nice, but I like some others a lot better.

I think TC should have gotten trickery and not NC though, makes more sense to me, and NC already gets all the good domains.