SL need love...

[weasel423]

btw...i'm still lobbying for the sl hidden tunnel doors be sl only as they were supposed to be way back in the day. its my re-election platform.

DEATH TO THE SURFACERS!

seconded

[Alkapwn]

btw...i'm still lobbying for the sl hidden tunnel doors be sl only as they were supposed to be way back in the day. its my re-election platform.

DEATH TO THE SURFACERS!

Hear! Hear!

[Lokey]

btw...i'm still lobbying for the sl hidden tunnel doors be sl only as they were supposed to be way back in the day. its my re-election platform.

DEATH TO THE SURFACERS!

I was intrigued by Chase's all players dead all the time policy, I've already subscribed to his newsletter.

[frogofpeace]

I'm lobbying for rogues so I can open those doors.

[weasel423]

I'm lobbying for rogues so I can open those doors.

If you need a rogue to open that door, you need to build better

[mining]

I'm lobbying for rogues so I can open those doors.

If you need a rogue to open that door, you need to build better

Rogue and assassin are the only classes with open lock as a class skill, if you didn't realize.

[Rufio]

It is important not to confuse NC rogue lobbying with NC complaining.

[cRaZy8or5e]

btw...i'm still lobbying for the sl hidden tunnel doors be sl only as they were supposed to be way back in the day. its my re-election platform.

DEATH TO THE SURFACERS!

That route is the most defensible route and plays to your assassin's strength probably the best and you don't want attackers to be able to use it?

NC needs rogues, cuz we're too pretty without them .

[Amoenotep]

the notion was never about defense..it was an issue i started bringing up when the mod first opened. the door way and tunnel itself was intended to be "sl only"..but it never got that way. i'm on a long long time of trying to change it.

[Alkapwn]

That route is the most defensible route and plays to your assassin's strength probably the best and you don't want attackers to be able to use it?

NC needs rogues, cuz we're too pretty without them .

Too many rats, Assassins only work effectively when no other enemies are around, and assassins suck

[frogofpeace]

the notion was never about defense..it was an issue i started bringing up when the mod first opened. the door way and tunnel itself was intended to be "sl only"..but it never got that way. i'm on a long long time of trying to change it.

Why? Same rationale as the pech tunnels to rk? The only objection I could think of would be relic related

[dethonlegs]

I'm lobbying for rogues so I can open those doors.

If you need a rogue to open that door, you need to build better

Rogue and assassin are the only classes with open lock as a class skill, if you didn't realize.

And my STR hogre pure fighter can open that door. Whats your point?

[mining]

If you need a rogue to open that door, you need to build better

Rogue and assassin are the only classes with open lock as a class skill, if you didn't realize.

And my STR hogre pure fighter can open that door. Whats your point?

Good, you don't need to build better

[weasel423]

And my STR hogre pure fighter can open that door. Whats your point?

Good, you don't need to build better

QFT

[cRaZy8or5e]

That route is the most defensible route and plays to your assassin's strength probably the best and you don't want attackers to be able to use it?

NC needs rogues, cuz we're too pretty without them .

Too many rats, Assassins only work effectively when no other enemies are around, and assassins suck

Well prepare the battlefield .

When you compare Assassin as a PRC to the other PRC's out there, I agree they're extremely difficult to use. I think the question is how to change Assassin without changing it's "flavor" so to speak. When there is a full on melee underway, assassins biggest hitting ability is almost impossible to use. They're great in the ambush when you have time to prepare for an enemy that you know is coming AND you know which of the many routes they might take. But I think the multiple routes in/out of SL are part of the flavor of SL. I think it would be really cool if they had SL only underdark routes into all the factions. Or maybe make it so that it's available to SL but requires other factions to make a really high search check to see.

But back to Assassins. I think the build combinations available to SL should make the shortcomings of assassin superfluous, provided good teamwork is used. Good teamwork takes a lot of time playing together and learning how your team mates play. The older players in SL use excellent teamwork. There seem to be a lot of newer SL members lately, teamwork isn't lost so much as there are hiccups while we learn how each other plays. somebody strap Thorac and pappy to their computers.

Other than making comparisons between assassins and the other PRC's, there really aren't any shortcomings when compared with build restrictions in the other factions.

When it comes to Job tokens. Well they can be really nice but they don't make or break a build. Or they shouldn't ...