Blackguards

[burrahobbit]

Crazy, you said a properly buffed BG from a bard and cleric (you actually said "with support" I assume this is what you meant) can hang with a CoT. So one toon with buffs from 2 others can hang with a self buffed CoT? Is that what you are saying?

Or you can make one mage to kill 2 CoT's.

[Cahaal]

Frog you are taking my observations wrong. I acknowledge the Torm worshiper alignments you posted, but I still feel the same.

There are 2 seperate issues. One is that I noticed that CoTs could be neutral and don't have to be good. The second was a long time coming. I noticed the BG summons issues when I built my toon. I posted what I got on our guild forum and didn't realize that I didn't say anything here. I combined the 2 posts. They are seperate observations and issues. My toon does not suck and I've stated that many times. I love to play her. I noticed that at high levels BG are lacking and the summon is capped WAY early.

[mining]

If the summon is capped way too early, does that mean that the summon is flawed, or you overshot the mark?

"Oh man, kobold is flawed... I get all the bonuses at 17 shifter! I wasted the other 13 levels!"

What I'm trying to say is build for what you're getting... No need to take 18 charisma on a divine build, all it gets you is no need for boots and a really long duration shield.

[BlkMamba]

Biggest Problem with the summon is the weapon it uses isnt enchanced
add an enhancement bonus to it (like the PM summons) so it damage can actually cut thru DR and the summons
would show dramatic improvement

And this could be based on the BG's lvl's as well the more bg lvl's the higher the enhancement

[Daltian]

Since frog has proven everyone wrong, with Twiggy being the wrongest one all we have to settle now is the answer to his question about CoT finaly geting the golden wyrm. So when is ETA on it?

[Amoenotep]

pm summon is creature weapon...i'd like to see the devil be focused in its own weapon though

[frogofpeace]

that does make sense

[Bargeld]

Devil has weapon focus, epic focus, specialization, epic specialization in both halberd and spear. Has spring attack, called shot, imp kd.

Also has point blank shot & rapid fire

Would be nice if it had autoquick harms to self heal like the EDK. I like the idea of weapon enhancements to break DR. I played my BG tonight and it is a serious tank. Problem is that the summon dies and you are left there as a tank doing no damage. Summon should survive longer and have more damage capability.

[Amoenotep]

wait wait wait.....assassins still suck right?

[mining]

What kind of figures does your BG pull? Sneaks from a BG should hurt a ton.

[Alkapwn]

wait wait wait.....assassins still suck right?

All Assassin needs is 1 hs/ms /2assassin levels and they'd be pretty sweet.
As it stands now. a solo buffed assassin(with any where close to decent dc) can only get about 110 hide/103ms (thats not ghostwise) vs a spotter with -6 wisdom can get 110 spot easily. So the supposedly stealthiest class gets no bonus to hs/ms , taking into account the whole reason assassins are "powerful" is they're ability to death attack. which requires them to be able to be paralyzed, basically be flatfooted, not involved in combat in anyway including casting buffs, and not have the ability to spot you creeping up on the with your relatively poor arse hs/ms.
I can think of 4 builds off the top of my head that can hs/ms about 18+ points better then an assassin and get hips on top of that.

Getting a one hit off on a target takes patience and perfect timing. It's extremely difficult.

How many assassins you see running around this server? 2 that i know of. Why do players not build assassins? i think its pretty obvious.....

[mining]

I actually agree with Alka. But a ghostwise 'sin should self buff to 127 hide, I think.

[Amoenotep]

was getting lost in the seas of random posts...just wanted to reassure myself they still suck

[Twiggy]

Since frog has proven everyone wrong, with Twiggy being the wrongest one all we have to settle now is the answer to his question about CoT finaly geting the golden wyrm. So when is ETA on it?

Hold up a second........how the hell am i wrong? All i've been saying is make the BG better, mainly by making the summon better.

Second i was mainly joking about the pally summon, but i like the idea non the less.

wait wait wait.....assassins still suck right?

that depresses me alot

[mining]

Since frog has proven everyone wrong, with Twiggy being the wrongest one all we have to settle now is the answer to his question about CoT finaly geting the golden wyrm. So when is ETA on it?

Hold up a second........how the hell am i wrong? All i've been saying is make the BG better, mainly by making the summon better.

and it adds to caster lvl.....

Regarding PM.

Ranger- Purpose is to spot sneakers and damage a very specific group of people.

Sorcerer- cross between fighter and caster

Monk- Mage Killer

Red Dragon Disciple- (pretty much shifters now)

Harper Scout- really only a good addition for rangers.

Shadow Dancer- Summon

want to beat a mage make a monk. want to beat a pally, make a good aligned WM (or even nuetral aligned).

that isn't a BG that's a sorcerer. if it was a BG it would have a majority of BG lvls.

why have a class if it's only good for 5 levels.

a once per day ability that lasts way too short to be of use for anything but boss battles and a short stint in pvp.

All i've been saying is make the BG better

All of your incorrectness, listed in an easy to read form!