Hill Giant CR

Charles I · Post by **Charles I** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:58 am

Hill giants currently have a CR of 10. This matches the cr of the Ogre Hunters. Hill giants are tougher than the ogres. The other giants with them, forest and mountain, have a cr of 12. The hill giants are not as tough as those. How about splitting the difference and giving hill giants a cr of 11?

mgrjebbo · Post by **mgrjebbo** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:00 pm

Aye i think that would prefectly reflect the difficulty differnce between ogres and giant types.

CrazyJ · Post by **CrazyJ** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:09 pm

Makes sense I suppose.

kingfatzo · Post by **kingfatzo** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:58 pm

thats logical enough, tho the hill is balanced well enough overall, need not mess with it

kgb · Post by **kgb** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:47 am

I found from experience that Hill Giants are like Chunkers are to Tree Smashers. They both seem to have more damage output but poorer defense (resistance).

I can happily stand toe-to-toe with a mountain or forest giant and not expect to get whacked but for some reason the ol' hill giant hits more regularly. On the flip side I can dispose of a hill giant quicker.

Same goes for chunkers over tree smashers.

So perhaps they should even be the same CR as a mountain giant/forest giant at CR 12. Though 11 would be a compromise of sorts.

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:50 pm

If anything with ogre/giant CR, the CRs should be all lowered across the board by either 1 or 2 given that these mobs are almost always easier to kill than anything else with the same CR, and everyone uses them to PL for 10-15 levels. I'm sure Chase would enthusiastically agree (hmm, do I get a free stick +1?

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Personally, I think we should just leave things they way they are.

ihuntudown · Post by **ihuntudown** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:30 am

than lower the cr for the ogres, most hardend players can take them from lvl 4-5 already.

kingfatzo · Post by **kingfatzo** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:57 am

uh oh .....all bad changes are stemmed from threads like these .... quick lock it !