What is going to be done about the Drow?

[Marah Telexus]

As of now Drow are all but completely useless in PvP, which makes them a worthless race to persue on this server. The drow are now far from being an ECL 3 now. So, they have SR, but that is no good for anything but scrolls (and by the way it goes back to 30 if you dont rest after dying). Perhaps the SR should be brought back up to the PnP SR, 10+level. They have darkness, but this is only good for killing mobs, not for PvP. As I see it, the only real benifit the Drow has is the SR in any PvP, and I would gladly give that up for the -ac, -ab, slow movement, blindness you get from any firestrike scroll some low lvl char can cast on you.

I also find that alot of people complain about the drow being too powerful, the same people who take a human as a race and get an extra feat, extra skill points, any favored class... As a drow, you give that up for some other benifits and a damaging/slow to level ECL 3. This ECL 3 makes it very hard to level past level 30, and in some cases hard to level past level 25.

If the arguement for the drow to be so disabled with light/fire spells is because they are from the underdark, then an equal arguement can be made for all surface races to be completely blind in the underdark, with perhaps some limited vision with a torch.

So, is it the developers intention to discourage building toons that are drow by rendering them useless in PvP even against low lvl spells/scrolls? I know that I and others have no intention of ever using their drow builds for PvP again. If there are any other races/classes that the developers intend on severely nerfing could there be a post on that so people dont waste time building toons, or perhaps we should all just build human clerics or cleric/WM's?

[$chase$]

As of now Drow are all but completely useless in PvP, which makes them a worthless race to persue on this server. The drow are now far from being an ECL 3 now. So, they have SR, but that is no good for anything but scrolls (and by the way it goes back to 30 if you dont rest after dying). Perhaps the SR should be brought back up to the PnP SR, 10+level. They have darkness, but this is only good for killing mobs, not for PvP. As I see it, the only real benifit the Drow has is the SR in any PvP, and I would gladly give that up for the -ac, -ab, slow movement, blindness you get from any firestrike scroll some low lvl char can cast on you.

I also find that alot of people complain about the drow being too powerful, the same people who take a human as a race and get an extra feat, extra skill points, any favored class... As a drow, you give that up for some other benifits and a damaging/slow to level ECL 3. This ECL 3 makes it very hard to level past level 30, and in some cases hard to level past level 25.

If the arguement for the drow to be so disabled with light/fire spells is because they are from the underdark, then an equal arguement can be made for all surface races to be completely blind in the underdark, with perhaps some limited vision with a torch.

So, is it the developers intention to discourage building toons that are drow by rendering them useless in PvP even against low lvl spells/scrolls? I know that I and others have no intention of ever using their drow builds for PvP again. If there are any other races/classes that the developers intend on severely nerfing could there be a post on that so people dont waste time building toons, or perhaps we should all just build human clerics or cleric/WM's?

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i would truely like to thank you for your positive and upbeat post. im sure a great post like this will get plenty of feedback. once again thank you. your a true help

[lordvan52681]

ok, excuse me while i try to be tactful...

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FRICKIN MIND?!?

I have tried every race (or close enough) and IMHO Drow are VERY powerful.

the SR is ungodly; at lvl 40 you have 45 SR. a pure mage at lvl 40 without penetration feats get 40 +1d20 to beat it, which means that a pure sorcerer has a 1 in 4 chance of beating it. excuse me but this is a very big advantage for any build.

the darkness follows you around. this is not normal darkness, which stays in place. it gives you the same properties as improved invis, but better cause the enemies wont always attack.

it is well worth the +3 ecl even if they do get blinded. Im sorry that you cant have your cheese without any disadvantages. life isnt fair.

[Marah Telexus]

You sure are a sensitive guy Chase. Nothing more helpful than you online...oh wait you arn't helpful at all, in any situation.

My comments were to question the nerfing of the Drow and I believe it is a concern that is shared by all people who have Drow. If you want something upbeat, perhaps some smiley faces will help?



More positve for you?

[Metis]

Try this, you have a problem try posting your constructive helpful suggestion for a solution, most of the people would disagree including myself but besides that just ripping on what is being changed offers no help.

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