NC Alignment Shifter

[mgrjebbo]

Blog has a 104 ac. And that helps you defeat a decent Smite build how? You act like that cant be hit or something.

[Rufio]

You know, posts saying that "I can kill bolg no problem in 1 round" doesn't really prove anything unless you actually show how. saying "I am not going to reveal how" is not an exemption.

[VagaStorm]

Blog has a 104 ac. And that helps you defeat a decent Smite build how? You act like that cant be hit or something.

Most smiters will max ab at 71 + cha say +11? is 82, so you'll still need to taunt him, or flatfoot him to have a reasonable chance of hitting him.

104 is pretty insane btw.... Wonder how much higher it is posible to go...

[Amoenotep]

not alot..my pm's usually end up with 105ac in imp. expertise mode.

[cRaZy8or5e]

not alot..my pm's usually end up with 105ac in imp. expertise mode.

"Tar Baby ain't sayin nuttin"

[burrahobbit]

115 is the tops that i can figure and you would need a +4 DEX and a +4 CHA book. If imp exp is considered dodge ac then its 109.

[Alkapwn]

115 is the tops that i can figure and you would need a +4 DEX and a +4 CHA book. If imp exp is considered dodge ac then its 109.

lol divine shield good call
Imp. exp is considered a Dodge type AC but not for the +20 Cap as far as i can tell through in game testing.
I love touch attacks btw

[Bargeld]

I love touch attacks btw

One of these days imma have to sneak up on Bolg with Gem just to see what happens

[Chernobyl_Glow]

Bolg and Vaga are exactly right. Pure pally can't hit 100AC even on a smite. Probably if he's flatfooted. And maybe if he's Taunted but you'll still need a good roll.

Minimum Cha Modifier for a Smiter is 13. Target Cha for Pure Pally is 28 base Cha which buffed gets you a 15 modifier. If I build an Aasimar with enough Int, Wis and Con to be sensible I'd start with 18 Cha and 16 Str. Use two +4 Books and 3 +2 books. Probably wind up with 28 Cha and 24 Str. Paladin can almost hit the +20 ab Cap on his own. With all the AB buffs and 13 Str modifier (36 buffed) he'd max AB at 67. 67+15 Cha on a Smite is 82. So like Bolg said, On your three swings you'd be praying for 20's.

For the record, Bolg let me try to smite him once with my Pure Pally Smiter. Mine has about a 80ab + d20 on his roll. Bolg wasn't in exp mode and I still missed on all three. Granted, if I did hit him it would have been about 450 points of damage. Almost enough to 1 shot him. And if I were lucky enough to Crit him... oh that's right. Nevermind.

So basically, its a long shot for a Pure Pally to hit a well built PM.

- Glow -

[mining monk]

Bolg and Vaga are exactly right. Pure pally can't hit 100AC even on a smite. Probably if he's flatfooted. And maybe if he's Taunted but you'll still need a good roll.

Minimum Cha Modifier for a Smiter is 13. Target Cha for Pure Pally is 28 base Cha which buffed gets you a 15 modifier. If I build an Aasimar with enough Int, Wis and Con to be sensible I'd start with 18 Cha and 16 Str. Use two +4 Books and 3 +2 books. Probably wind up with 28 Cha and 24 Str. Paladin can almost hit the +20 ab Cap on his own. With all the AB buffs and 13 Str modifier (36 buffed) he'd max AB at 67. 67+15 Cha on a Smite is 82. So like Bolg said, On your three swings you'd be praying for 20's.

For the record, Bolg let me try to smite him once with my Pure Pally Smiter. Mine has about a 80ab + d20 on his roll. Bolg wasn't in exp mode and I still missed on all three. Granted, if I did hit him it would have been about 450 points of damage. Almost enough to 1 shot him. And if I were lucky enough to Crit him... oh that's right. Nevermind.

So basically, its a long shot for a Pure Pally to hit a well built PM.

- Glow -

Including buff AC on him?

[LinuxPup]

I see no reason to nerf PDKs... also the final stand not only has a timer on when you can blow the trumpet, but one for each person affected... this so you can't chain multiple PDK's final stands together or stack them... that might be the reason people aren't always affected... also I think it might only affect non-evil

[Rainswept]

I think it might only affect non-evil

That would explain why I never saw any benifits from it.

[Shhhhhhh]

Yeah its non evil only, but doesnt effect the PDK that uses it sadly enough.