Not Dev Crit.

[maibs]

since dev crit is disabled, can it be used as a blank slate ? I mean it's a script essentially fully of decision logic and blahblahblah, so it could be different yeah ?

for example a str ability modifier can only get to around +23 at max, so dev crit could (while completely worthless in it's original implementation) provide a passive bonus of +(.5xstr modifier) ?
or in less confusing terms a bonus of half strength modifier added to damage (as bludgeoning or or *weapon type*) for example.

or if not that, then something at least for the str tanks.

It just seems a bit unbalanced that a str toon has no top tier feat anymore (and by str toon I mean str in general not class related feats)

[Lokey]

If it were it would have been.

[Brionn_Unbound]

http://highergroundpoa.proboards3.com/i ... 668&page=1

[Daltian]

If that's done without hackpack, its simply awesome!

[Lorkar]

I like alot of the features as well but alas, it requires the CEP 2.0 hak. Which puts it out of the realm of NS4.

[Lokey]

I just asked Funky for general details. May not require a hak depending on how it's implemented: http://www.nwnx.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.ph ... ight=#9191

Would be a project. I'd rather wait to see what virusman thinks about a windows port before having to redo a bunch of things for Linux equivalents.

[VagaStorm]

I was looking at that higher ground thing, and alot of stuff where cool, some blowd, but this: "Armor: Invisible Helms
- Helms can be equipped invisibly, allowing characters' heads to be seen, by using the !opt invishelm command." I'd love to see :p I'm tierd of 80% of the toons using merfolk helm....

[Fezz]

Couldnt agree with you more.

[Daltian]

I like how they added keen to the ranged weapons!

[MLoki]

Sorry about the tangent but I would like to comment on the mod that was linked to previously.

Having played Higher Ground I would like to point out that it is almost akin to NS3.5 in power scale but it is so heavily modified that it takes a seperate degree to build effectively there. I really liked some of the level based modifications they did making heavy dedication in a class very rewarding. Almost every class benifits from Epic Levels and since they include Legendary levels even more bonuses are added for class levels over 40. They also include "Quasi Classes" for specific class combinations.

http://highergroundpoa.proboards3.com/i ... hread=6677

Probably the one thing we could take from Higher Ground is the way everything is documented. They even have a seperate optional hak that shows you in game what spells and feats have been changed and gives you the modified information when examined.

http://highergroundpoa.proboards3.com/i ... hread=6679

Overall this mod really had a completely different feel and in my opinion it didn't hold a candle to what we have here. Without actual PvP and the HUGE list of modifications this mod was almost like a completely different game and not based on D&D at all anymore.

As for Dev Crit, if we could make some of these unused feats worthwhile it would make some feat trees usefull. Other feats that should be looked into might include Circle Cick, Dirty Fighting, Overwhelming Critical. Some Skills should be looked at as well to allow even more customization. A few changes to a few unused feats and skills wouldn't be too bad but we have to be carefull not to fall into the same trap as Higher Ground and loose the original feel of the game.

[maibs]

that was a part of what I meant.
if a feat with the dev crit requirements existed there would be reason to have power attack/cleave/greater cleave/overwhelming crit

I haven't seen greater cleave on NS4 before with the exception of one player that was new and had no idea that dev crit was disabled at wich point we advised him strongly to either remake his character or at least head in a different direction with it as overwhelming crit and dev crit serve no purpose.

there are other reasons to have power attack and cleave, no point to greater cleave though.
same with o/crit.

[Heeza]

This is what the NS 4 Wiki has for Overwhelming Critical. I know Dev Crit is disabled, but it was my understanding that this is how Overwhelming Crit worked ont he NS 4 server.

Is this right or wrong?

Thanks

Overwhelming Critical
From Neversummer 4 Wiki
Type of Feat: (Epic) General

Prerequisite: Str 23, 21st level, Cleave, Great Cleave, Improved Critical (chosen weapon), Power Attack

Required for: Devastating Critical

Specifics: When using the weapon chosen, the character deals +1d6 points of damage on a successful critical hit. If the weapon’s critical multiplier is x3, add +2d6 and if the multiplier is x4, add 3d6.

Use: Automatic

[VagaStorm]

This is what the NS 4 Wiki has for Overwhelming Critical. I know Dev Crit is disabled, but it was my understanding that this is how Overwhelming Crit worked ont he NS 4 server.

Is this right or wrong?

Thanks

Overwhelming Critical
From Neversummer 4 Wiki
Type of Feat: (Epic) General

Prerequisite: Str 23, 21st level, Cleave, Great Cleave, Improved Critical (chosen weapon), Power Attack

Required for: Devastating Critical

Specifics: When using the weapon chosen, the character deals +1d6 points of damage on a successful critical hit. If the weapon’s critical multiplier is x3, add +2d6 and if the multiplier is x4, add 3d6.

Use: Automatic

That is so, but you forgot a cusial part of the description:

Any weapon that has the property of massive critical will override any bonus you get from overwhelming critical.

Since almost all if not all weps on ns4 has massive critical, the feat is totaly useless might be usefull if your a scyte wm or something....

[Heeza]

Ah, yes...for some reason my brain was thinking "mighty" not "massive". I now understand.