missing spell slots

Aarkon Draco · Post by **Aarkon Draco** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:45 pm

leveling a ranger who just hit 14th ( pure) i have 14 wis and i should of getten another lvl 1 spell slot but i didnt i still have only 2 lvl 1 spells

any ideas on this?

lvl 14 ranger spell slots - 2 1st, 1 2nd, 1 3rd, 0 4th + 1 1st and 1 2nd for 14 wis

minielvis · Post by **minielvis** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:45 pm

imo: level to 20 , then see what you have

Aarkon Draco · Post by **Aarkon Draco** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:49 pm

well i got it at lvl 15 so the nwn wiki is wrong on when you get it apprently

Aarkon Draco · Post by **Aarkon Draco** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:13 am

ok this is weird paladins and rangers have the same spell progression my ranger was one level late in getting a 1st lvl spell however a paladin im leveling got it as he should on 14th level. so did the ranger spell progression get messed up somehow? if one of you devs can take a look and see if its that or my ranger just had a weird quirk that fixed itself.

Post by **LinuxPup** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:19 am

level up your ranger and see if you get it later... I don't think we've done anything to change it.

Aarkon Draco · Post by **Aarkon Draco** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:52 am

i got it at lvl 15 but it should of been there at lvl 14 as both paladin and ranger have the same progression of spells there seems to be something amiss.

Txzeenath · Post by **Txzeenath** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:57 am

NWN Wiki, unless i'm looking wrong, has 0 slots per day for level 14, and one slot gets added the following day. So level 15 to actually get the spell slot.

Post by **Binkyuk** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:21 am

His resting wis of >16 will give him a slot.

Aarkon Draco · Post by **Aarkon Draco** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:31 am

ok alot of you are getting confused apparently so let me recap this

my ranger who has a 14 wis had 2 lvl 1 slots at 13th level ... at lvl 14 she should of gotten another lvl 1 slot she did not ... she did get it at 15th level tho... while leveling a paladin who has the same wis stat... got a third lvl 1 slot at 14th level as it should.... so dispite the 2 toons having the same spell progression one got the 3rd lvl 1 slot at 15th instead of 14th level ... that was the ranger who did not get the 3rd lvl 1 slot at 14th.

not a big deal honestly however i know if it was a mage or cleric with incorrect spell progression alot of people would be up in arms about it.

again not a big deal really i just found it strange and it would be nice if we could get it looked into.

Txzeenath · Post by **Txzeenath** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:20 pm

Arguing based on a wiki isn't exactly the best thing to do either. They are often wrong due to edits that aren't always caught. If you go into the history, someone modified the table. It was originally gained at level 15 until someone changed it to 14.

http://nwn.wikia.com/index.php?title=Ranger&oldid=28086

Paladin had the same thing happen, so unless a second source can be found, I wouldn't trust the wiki at this point

EDIT: better yet, go into single player(custom modules work best to bypass the cutscenes) and press the tilde(~) key, type "DebugMode 1" "dm_givelevel 40" and than "SetWIS #" where # is whatever your testing wisdom is.

If it turns out the NS progression is wrong, it may be a bug from an unknown change that was never caught.

A junk module I made for quick tests:
http://zzz.ezoshosting.com/module000.mod

Aarkon Draco · Post by **Aarkon Draco** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:35 pm

well that would exsplain things IF paladins and rangers had diffrent spell advancment ... they dont

Txzeenath · Post by **Txzeenath** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:43 pm

Tested each, ranger got it at 15, paladin at 14 .. this is with 14 wisdom. So yes, the actual progression is different and the wiki is wrong and/or wisdom effects their progression differently.

(and my point about the wiki isn't that the progression is different, it's that the wiki can't really be trusted for accurate information)

Post by **Amoenotep** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:52 pm

so..all that explaining, re explaining, anger, fist shaking...sounds like a bioware bug

Aarkon Draco · Post by **Aarkon Draco** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:53 pm

no one was angry .. at least i wasent i was just pointing out a odd occurance

and as far as the wiki goes while it does have a few errors it is still far more reliable than the manual that came with the game.